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- From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.announce
- Subject: Re: WARNING: NetWare for the Mac may DAMAGE YOUR FILES
- Date: 23 Jan 1993 11:17:27 -0600
- Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
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- References: 64sis-c@massey.ac.nz> <1993Jan22.013452.2459@gallant.apple.com
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- ___________________________________________________________________
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- || Moderator's Note: ||
- || I'd like to call your attention to this discussion thread ||
- || in the comp.sys.novell newsgroup (a.o), especially as Daniel ||
- || explicitly invites feedback and offers email support. We ||
- || all wished other companies would be as "insightful". ||
- || Kudos, Daniel. ---Werner ||
- \___________________________________________________________________/
-
- In <1993Jan22.013452.2459@gallant.apple.com> Alexander M. Rosenberg <alexr@apple.com> writes:
- > In <64sis-c@massey.ac.nz> Nigel Perry, N.Perry@massey.ac.nz writes:
- >> NetWare changes a file in two ways when copied onto a NetWare volume:
- >>
- >> 1) The modified time of the file is truncated to an even number of
- >> seconds.
- >>
- >> 2) The created time is set to (an even approximation of) the current
- >> time, thus you get a file with a modifed time EARLIER than the
- >> creation time (maybe as new releases of PC software come out PC users
- >> are used to the sensation of time going backwards :-))
- >
- >
- > This is why running the Apple Installer off a Netware server ("doing
- > a network install") is not recommended. The Installer matches file
- > versions using date/time.
-
- Hi,
-
- In response to the postings regarding file time stamp issues, please
- consider the following:
-
- NetWare for Macintosh does *not* alter the *data* contained in a Macintosh
- file that has been copied or created on that volume. This has been verified
- time and time again in the field by users who successfully open/close or
- otherwise manipulate their Macintosh files on a daily basis.
-
- Novell acknowledges its responsibility concerning consistant functionality
- across all platforms which are supported by our server(s). The time stamp
- used by the Macintosh is simply different than that used by NetWare. This
- difference has existed since NetWare for Macintosh has been on the market,
- and has been an endless source of concern. The problems created by this
- disparity are ones that no company would be proud of having to deal with.
- Yet this is the state we find ourselves in today.
-
- Please understand that Novell takes this challange seriously and will
- provide real solutions in "near future" products. I am not at liberty to
- specify which product(s) will contain solutions, but anyone listening to
- the LAN market and our product development can probably guess which
- products contain the solutions to which I am referring.
-
- Finally, if you should feel that you are experiencing trouble regarding
- time stamps (or *any* other symptom) please contact one of us here in the
- Technical Support Group. You can either send the request/description to
- me via E-MAIL or call our Technical Support Hotline. All of us here are
- aware of these issues and strive to provide workable solutions in a timely
- fashion. So please do not hesitate to ask us for specific assistance.
- But please do not "flame" us maliciously in a public forum as that will
- gain neither of us anything.
-
- Think Peace...
-
- Dan Seeman
- Novell
- Walnut Creek, Ca.
-
- PS: Apple's 7.1 OS installer (network) *does* properly function.
- Apparently they (Apple) viewed this solution (to be more flexible
- on accepting even time stamps) as an easy one to implement.
- If you cannot get the 7.1 installer (it should be available on
- AppleLink) I can provide RESEDIT instructions for solving the problem.
- Let me know if you need the instructions for this particular Installer.
-
-