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- From: wiegand@rtsg.mot.com (Robert Wiegand)
- Subject: Re: Using slower-than-spec RAM
- Message-ID: <wiegand.727729819@lido16>
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- Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
- References: <C17oF6.L61@inews.Intel.COM>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:10:19 GMT
- Lines: 44
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- thamilto@fnugget.intel.com (Tony Hamilton) writes:
-
- >HI. Just bought a 486-33DX machine. For reference, it's an Intel _computer_...
- >I work at Intel and bought one on an employee offer. Anyway, it came with
- >4MB installed, in a 32-pin SIMM or something like that (I'm new to memory).
-
- >The system also comes with 2 banks of 4 9-pin SIMM sockets, for either 1x9
- >or 4x9 SIMMs (I still hope I'm getting these pin numbers right. It's the best
- >I can remember - I don't have my manual with me). Well, anyway, the manual
- >stated that you can mix and match SIMM types, as long as each bank of 4 has
- >all the same, and is either all full or all empty. In addition, you can pop
- >in an 8MB SIMM apparently in place of the 4MB one. Anyway... the manual
- >suggests 80ns RAM, or faster. Because it was available and _very_ cheap, I
- >popped in 100ns 1x9's in all 8 extra sockets, giving me 12MB total. Everything
- >works fine, and I can verify the RAM is working for my applications which
- >can use it.
-
- >My question is: every tech person I talk to says not to do this, but they
- >can't explain the reasoning behind that caution. I've heard it may have
- >something to do with the bus and addressing, but I don't see any problems with
- >the integrity of the memory. Should I be able to get away with this, or is
- >there still a need for concern?
-
- Yes there is reason for concern. While your system seems to run OK
- you could get occasional random memory errors. Your system could
- crash at any time without warning.
-
- The memory access speed is the time it takes from when the processor
- puts the memory address out to when the memory parts to put out the data.
- You processor will wait 80ns from when it puts out the address to read
- the data lines. But the memory parts could take up to 100ns to get
- the data out. So its possible that when the processor reads the data
- lines the memories haven't put their data out yet. The processor then
- will use whatever random data was on the data bus and your program
- gets messed up.
-
- I would suggest removing the slow memory, you are just asking for trouble.
-
- valid data
- --
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- Robert Wiegand - Motorola Inc.
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- Disclamer: I didn't do it - I was somewhere else at the time.
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