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- Subject: RAM Cards
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- After Joe Horn posted a note that I made about Smith Corrona RAM cards into
- his goodies disk I have been recieving mail asking me about what I had
- done. Here is a note about the RAM cards, by Allan Petersen, describing
- in much more detail what I have done.
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- From: ap@dde.uucp (Allan P. Petersen)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
- Subject: HP48: Epson RAM card surgery [long]
- Keywords: RAM card, Epson, CMT
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- Date: 20 Feb 91 09:55:47 GMT
- Organization: Dansk Data Elektronik A/S, Herlev, Denmark
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- Epson RAM card surgery ... or: All about RAM cards.
- ------------------------------------------------------------
- by Allan Petersen
- Dansk Data Elektronik A/S, Copenhagen
- ------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Shortly after the introduction of the HP48sx it was mentioned here
- on c.s.h. that Epson RAM cards possibly could be used in the 48 and
- that HP RAM cards in fact were custom versions of Epson cards. It
- was later pointed out that the standard Epson RAM cards should not
- be used in the 48 because of different electrical specifications
- than the HP custom version.
-
- [ this is definately true - I know of one person who sent their
- calc in for "warranty" work after using an unmodied Epson RAM
- card in the '48 - robin ]
-
- I followed this discussion with interest and later when I got my
- 48sx, I looked for further info on the specs of Epson cards. I
- found some specs and studied them carefully; recently I found a
- supplier of cards and asked for prices and delivery times.
-
- I have now got a RAM card, have made some tests on it, and have
- made some comparisons to the CMT RAM card and the HP Eq. Lib. card
- (as mentioned recently by a colleague of mine Arne Christensen here
- at DDE).
-
- Here I will describe the test results; but first the prices:
-
- [ note date of Feb 91 - I am not sure if prices are current - r ]
-
- In Denmark the price of the 32k Epson RAM card is 72 $ and the 128k
- Epson card is 157 $. Both prices are based on single piece
- quantities and are excl. sales tax.
- These prices more or less correspond to the EduCalc prices of
- HP/CMT cards but as the 32k/128k Epson card cost respectively 81%
- and 56% of the 32k/128k HP card here in Denmark, I would expect the
- Epson cards to be slightly cheaper in the States than the mentioned
- prices from here.
- However from a cost point of view there is not much to hope for,
- the best advice seems to be: Buy from EduCalc.
-
- Well, being of a curious mind, I could not resist the challenge and
- finally got a 32k Seiko-Epson RAM card (type no. RBC032IE10, the
- 128k card is called RBC128IE10) hoping to be able to change the
- voltage detect level and/or add some extra RAM chips to the card.
- Other types (OTP EPROM/EEPROM/Flash EEPROM/MASK) are also available
- from Seiko-Epson.
-
- It was indeed somewhat of a challenge but so far I have managed to
- change the detection level, which I will describe to you a little
- later; first concerning the specs:
-
- I can in every respect confirm that every piece of information on
- the HP cards given here by Jim Dickie, Steve Harper and Preston
- Brown (all from HP Corvallis) is in fact correct and
- considered:
-
- I have found that the standard Epson RAM card that I have clamps
- the address and control lines to ground until the supply voltage
- reaches 4.20 volts and again clamps the lines when the voltage goes
- lower than 4.15 volts.
- The data lines are not clamped.
- These measurements were made with the card inserted in an original
- Seiko-Epson card socket, not the 48.
-
- The voltage supplied from my 48 to the card is 4.24 volts when the
- 48 is running programs (battery midt-life or so, version E
- calculator).
-
- This means that there is typically a chance that the card will
- work if inserted, but the margin is very limited. As earlier stated
- here the powersupply of the 48 is stabilized and not very dependent
- of battery state; however when the batteries become almost empty at
- some point the stabilizer wil not be able to sustain the needed
- voltage and the RAM card will clamp its inputs long before the 48
- stops operating. This has a very high chance of causing a memory
- lost (or something worse...) as the clamps are rather effective: On
- my card it takes about 10 mA per line to pull the line to 0,4 volt
- and 25 mA to pull to 1 volt. This corresponds to about 40 ohm
- on-resistance, which makes me guess that the controller uses
- on-biased MOSFETs on the inputs in the clamp-state.
-
- There is no way the 48 will be able to pull-up all these lines,
- therefore: DO NOT USE A STANDARD EPSON RAM CARD IN YOUR HP48 !!
- It may work for a time, but you are on very, very thin ice here !
-
- The only way to safely use an otherwise standard Epson RAM card is
- to change the clamp voltage detect level on the card and at the end
- of this article I will describe how to do this; but if you do not
- feel absolutely sure of what you are doing, I will strongly
- recommend that you order a HP card from eg. EduCalc (I can highly
- recommend EduCalc for their excellent service, I speak of personal
- experience). The cost saving - if any - on changing a standard card
- is not worth the change of a possibly damaged card - or damaged
- calculator :-).
-
- BTW: No, I have no connection in any way to HP, I just happen to
- love their products and quality!
-
- Some more specifications:
-
- The card has of course the same mechanical dimensions as the HP
- card, although it has no plastic handle to help in removing the
- card from the calculator, it has 40 pin connections on a contact
- pitch of 1.27 mm, pattern width 0.8 mm, pattern gap 0.47 mm,
- contacts have min. 0.3 micrometer gold over min. 5 micrometer Ni,
- and the shutter mechanism is guaranteed for 10,000 insertions. The
- front and rear are covered by stainless steel panels to protect
- against statics, noise and shock. The card and connector are keyed,
- preventing incorrect insertion.
- The data interface is 8 bits wide.
-
- I have made some measurements of current consumption, but I will
- not give you any figures, as there is often a factor of up to 100
- between the max. RAM chip current over temp and the typical current
- at room temp and it is in fact this current that will decide the
- lifetime of the back-up battery; the current consumed by the card
- at 4.4 volt (or other voltage) from the calculator is irrelevant
- from a back-up point of view, although it in some cases may have a
- small influence on the lifetime of the batteries in the calculator
- itself.
-
- The main part of the card's standby current consumption from the 48
- is probably caused by the controller chip (gate array) in the Epson
- card; the standby current is specified as max. 1.15 mA, but a
- current this high is NOT taken from the back-up battery when the 48
- is off. Only the RAM chip data retention current and a very small
- current for the controller to keep its clamps on-biased is taken
- from the Lithium battery.
-
- The CMT card is claimed to use much less than the 1.15 mA, which is
- very likely, as the CMT card is probably designed using standard
- CMOS chips, but this difference does not need to have much relation
- to the actual back-up currents from the Lithium battery.
-
- I agree that the Epson card controller will consume a small current
- to keep the clamp MOSFETs on and to bias the gatearray, but this
- should not be that significant.
-
- The standard Epson card is specified for a typ. data retention
- periode of 4 years at room temp.
-
- When you look down at the gold contacts and hold the battery end of
- card away from you, the leftmost pin is pin number one.
-
- The pin connections are:
-
- PIN: Signal: PIN: Signal:
- 1 Power supply input 21 Card enable (active HIGH)
- 2 Batt. out/ EPROM Vpp 22 Output enable (active low)
- 3 Addr. 0 23 Data 0
- 4 Addr. 1 24 Data 1
- 5 Addr. 2 25 Data 2
- 6 Addr. 3 26 Data 3
- 7 Addr. 4 27 Data 4
- 8 Addr. 5 28 Data 5
- 9 Addr. 6 29 Data 6
- 10 Addr. 7 30 Data 7
- 11 Addr. 8 31 nc How are these
- 12 Addr. 9 32 nc lines connected
- 13 Addr. 10 33 nc in the 48?
- 14 Addr. 11 34 nc Could really be
- 15 Addr. 12 35 nc nice to have
- 16 Addr. 13 36 nc waitrequest here!!
- 17 Addr. 14 37 Write prot. out (act low)
- 18 Addr. 15 38 Card present out(act high)
- 19 Addr. 16 39 Device type (low for RAM)
- 20 Write enable (active low) 40 Ground
-
- It can be seen that the card enable signal is active high; on
- standard EPROMs the enable signal is active low, so if you try to
- make an adaptor for an EPROM programmer, you need to invert this
- signal in your adaptor.
-
- Some signal lines are used to indicate card present, writeprotect,
- and ROM/RAM type. If the writeprotect switch on the card is set to
- protect position, the 48 will not be able to change the card data,
- not even in a memory lost/lock-up situation.
-
- The card battery voltage is measured via a 1M resistor.
-
- And now to the exciting part: OPENING THE CARD.
-
- Remove the battery and use a scalpel to very carefully lift and cut
- loose the stainless steel panel on the upper side (the side
- opposite to the side where the contacts and the shutter are
- located). Be careful not to damage the inside of the card - or your
- fingers :-).
-
- Near one edge by the battery there is a metal spring used to
- connect the two steel panels to keep them at the same electrical
- potential. You will probably damage this spring when you open the
- card (so did I). You must remember to put in a new spring when you
- assemble the card again (I used a piece of conductive rubber) in
- order to keep the protection against statics. Also be careful not
- to damage the springs for the shutter mechanism; put a piece of
- tape over them until you assemble the card again.
-
- When you have removed the panel, you will (on the 32k card) see the
- following:
-
- A position for a 2016 Lithium battery (coin cell, not supplied with
- the card) and close to this the write protect switch; positions for
- 4 pieces of 32k RAM chips, with one position occupied. One
- decoder/controller chip (Seiko-Epson proprietary gate array), and
- another smaller chip which is the voltage detector chip. Several
- surface mount capacitors used for decouplings and some surface
- mount chip resistors. Four gold plated test points.
-
- The PCB is of good quality with gold plated contacts and bonding
- pads. Also the plastic card frame and the shutter mechanism seems
- to be of high quality, so in my opinion the card will stand up to
- the usual high quality that we associate with HP products.
-
- There is no plastic handle like the one found on the HP version, so
- the card can be difficult to remove if inserted into the 48, but it
- is easy to glue some kind of grip onto the card if you wish to.
-
- Unfortunately the chips are fastened directly to the PCB, bonded to
- bondingpads on the PCB and covered with drops of epoxy, so it is
- not possible to use standard small-outline RAM chips to extend the
- memory. The chips actually used are standard dies (you can see the
- familiar bonding pad layout known from eg. 27C256 EPROMs with
- quartz window).
-
- You can't solder out the detector chip either :-(; but the test_
- point located away from the three others happens to be the output
- of the voltage detector.
-
- If you cut the PCB trace (be careful...) from the smaller IC to the
- testpoint, you can now via the testpoint access the clamp enable
- input of the gate array!
-
- This is very interesting, because you can now add a new voltage
- detector IC and thereby change the detection level at your own
- choice (provided you can get the correct detector IC).
-
- The detector IC requires three signals: Supply voltage from the
- card connector, ground, and a detector output, which is connected
- to the clamp enable input of the gate array.
- The three testpoints close together are ground (closest to the card
- edge), some kind of detector checkpoint, and card supply voltage.
- It is not possible to change the original detector level via the
- detector checkpoint, but the detector hysteresis may be changed
- (although this just makes things worse :-)).
-
- I know of two types of voltage detectors that can be used:
- Seiko Epson Corp. type SCI7701YHA (typ. 3.2 volt)
- or Seiko Instruments Inc. type S-8053ALR-LJ-X (typ. 3.25 volt).
-
- These are SOT89 surface mount packages and can be connected to the
- required testpoints with thin, isolated wirewrap wire.
-
- I do not know the price of the detectors, I just got a few samples.
- I have placed the detector in one of the three empty positions for
- RAM chips and with a fine solder tip I melted grooves in the
- plastic frame to make room for the wires.
-
- If you can get a detector IC, you will probably also be able to
- find the pinconnections of the IC, so I will not go into these
- details.
-
- You may use a different voltage version of the detector (when using
- an open drain version instead of a CMOS version a pull-up is
- required), but the voltage should be between 3.2 and 3.9 volts for
- best results. If the voltage is too low, you may end up in a
- situation where the RAM chips may take power from the back-up
- battery while they are active; this will exhaust the back-up
- battery very fast and you may even risk to loose data memory when
- your main batteries are down.
-
- Under normal battery conditions this will not occur with a low
- detector voltage as the supplied voltage from the 48 will drop
- rapidly below the clamp voltage when the 48 is switched off; so if
- you just switch off your 48 immediately when a low main battery is
- detected, you can safely get away with using a detector voltage
- down to about 2 volts. I have tried 2.6 volt with no problems.
-
- After these changes carefully glue the panel in place again, glue
- on a plastic handle, put on some nice labels on the card, install a
- 2016 lithium battery, set a battery alarm, and you have got
- yourself a RAM card for your 48.
-
- Sounds complicated? Well, then don't do it; but if you tried
- something like the memory expansion of the HP28C as described by
- Wlodek, I think you will find this very interesting also.
-
- Some comments on the CMT card:
-
- I have found that the CMT card does not clamp the signal lines, so
- in this respect you won't get problems. However this could make the
- pins more sensitive to static electricity, especially when there is
- no shutter mechanism to cover the contacts. CMT also warns you to
- keep the card in the anti-static bag when the card is not in the
- 48.
-
- It has been claimed that CMT uses tranzorbers on the signal lines
- for protection; sounds good, that will give you adequate protection,
- but then why does CMT put so much emphasis on the protective bag
- issue? I have not tested the card with voltages outside the
- specified normal range, and I have not seen the inside of the card
- (Arne would not let me open his CMT card :-) :-)) so I can not
- really judge how protection is made.
-
- On the other hand I have not yet seen commercially available
- tranzorbers for surface mounting - but I may be wrong here; if
- someone will give me a CMT card, I certainly will make a closer
- examination :-).
-
- The mechanical dimensions of the CMT and the HP cards are somewhat
- different: the CMT card has a thickness of 2.0 mm at the contact
- area and a thickness from 2.42 to 3.0 mm on the body, where the
- measures of the HP card are 1.80 mm and 2.3 mm. Thus the required
- insertion force for the CMT card is rather high.
-
- It is very difficult to see if the CMT card corresponds correctly
- with the connector keying or not, but when inserted in a separate
- card connector you can see that the contact fingers are not fully
- depressed, there is still a clearance of about 0.2 - 0.3 mm behind
- them, so I assume that the contacts themselves will not be damaged
- by inserting the CMT card, but I can't see if that is also the case
- with the sockets in the 48 itself, as I have not taken the 48 apart
- to see if the sockets are standard Epson sockets.
-
- The contacts of the CMT card does not seem to be of the same quality
- as on the original cards; the PCB traces have blurred edges, not
- straight and sharp lines as you usually see on PCB's for professional
- use, but if the traces on the board are intact, you may argue that
- these are only cosmetic flaws.
-
- After all, I do not see any really serious reasons why you should
- not use a CMT card in your 48 calculator as long as you mainly keep
- the card in your calculator instead of using it as an exchange
- medium; but I don't like the high insertion force. If you are going
- to make a card for the 48, why not make it the same mechanical
- dimensions as the original cards?
-
- I think the price difference is not enough to justify the electrical
- and mechanical differences.
-
- What is the next project here? Well, some form of programmer
- for Epson EPROM or EEPROM cards, I guess. I have noticed that the
- HP Equation Library card - and therefore also the Epson EPROM
- cards, I hope - do not clamp the signal lines on a low supply
- voltage. It will then be easy to design a programmer for these
- cards and use them in the 48.
-
- Some time ago HP released a very useful MSDOS program USRLIB that
- enables you to build libraries for the 48.
-
- However I do not have a PC, so I was very, very pleased to see
- Frank Ochoa's TOOLS.48 that Friedrich Schroeder sent to c.s.h.
- recently. Very nice. I can recommend the >LIB function. Now we can
- build libraries in the 48 itself. Great. Then we just need a
- convenient way of programming EPROM/EEPROM cards (I know that CMT
- has a programmer, but it is priced at 280 $ ..., I also know that
- EduCalc has a programming service, but I would like to do this at
- home).
- I'll try to work something out, so that I can make my own library
- cards, so stay tuned.
-
- Now, after going through all this, what would I really recommend
- you to do concerning RAM cards? In my opinion it goes like this:
-
- - You CAN modify standard Epson cards but it is hardly worth the
- effort, so buy the HP cards and buy them where you can get them
- at the best price (I can recommend EduCalc). This will give you
- the best value for your money in the long run.
-
-
- Disclaimer: Don't blame me if something goes wrong if you use
- some of my ideas; these opinions are mine alone, but
- you may have them if you want to :-).
- I do not speak on behalf of anybody else and have no
- connections to HP, Educalc or Epson.
- Even my employer may have opinions different from
- mine and can not be held responsible either.
-
- Allan
-
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