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- From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au
- Subject: Re: Unix Review review of Alpha/OSF
- Message-ID: <1993Jan24.065022.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>
- Lines: 33
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- Organization: Curtin University of Technology
- References: <1993Jan20.032354.21323@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au> <1993Jan20.194415.17508@decuac.dec.com> <C182FK.GJ9@visix.com> <1jp18gINN23e@sol.tis.com>
- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:50:22 GMT
-
- In article <1jp18gINN23e@sol.tis.com>, mjr@tis.com (Marcus J Ranum) writes:
- > abstine@visix.com writes:
- >>Again, the assumption is that we're too stupid to manage our own systems
- >>and need to have own hands held to the utmost.
- >
- > That's not it at all. The assumption is that you're stupid enough
- > to keep paying for bugfixes for something you bought that was originally
- > broken. That "handholding" is a profitable business.
- > It bothers me a lot that vendors (any vendor, but since this is
- > comp.sys.dec) are willing to sell something with as many stupid, braindamaged,
- > un-fixed-since-N-releases-ago-but-have-been-QARred-so-often-there's-a-FAQ
- > bugs in it, but they want to charge an arm and a leg to fix it. I have
- > no problem with a vendor telling me that if I want ULTRIX4.3 I need to
- > pay for it, but they should *FIX* my older version for a reasonable
- > amount of time and they should eat the cost of the bad software, not
- > pass it on to the customer.
- >
-
- Yeah, well said. The morality of letting people get burned or killed ( and
- before someone flames, read the post from the digit on this ) is above belief.
- Yes, a patch can be faulty, or can booby trap other parts of the system. BUT,
- with out sources, it is impossible to tell, and current licence conditions
- forbid you to look!
-
- If the people running Dec can't see the difference between an unexpected
- error causing an accedent, and the same caused by the willful withholding of
- information on a known problem, I only hope that there is a second vendor
- of Alpha chips REAL SOON.
-
- Once you used to feel that Dec was on your side...
-
- ~Paul
-
-