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- From: mbernar@erenj.com (Marcelino Bernardo)
- Subject: Re: ADVOCACY: Re: Porky pig.
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.052439.8917@erenj.com>
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- Organization: Exxon Research and Engineering, NJ
- References: <11778@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> <9301217343@ritz.mordor.com>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:24:39 GMT
- Lines: 42
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- In article <9301217343@ritz.mordor.com> ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz) writes:
- >Warwick Allison (warwick@cs.uq.oz.au) wrote:
- >OS/2> craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore) writes:
- >OS/2> >Warwick Allison writes:
- >OS/2>
- >OS/2> >>In my experience, cheap PC-clones are flaky. You STILL get what you pay
- >OS/2> >>for, even with the low prices of The Clones.
- >OS/2>
- >OS/2>
- >OS/2> But with computers, a flakey component can work PERFECTLY for any amount
- >OS/2> of time then DING - suddenly a chip pops out of its socket (ok, easy
- >OS/2> to fix). Or a dry joint finally develops just under the spacebar that
- >OS/2> you bash everytime you fire a smart-bomb.
- >OS/2>
- >
- >I really wish you would lay off the complete misinformation. Any
- >electrical engineering major (I was one for 3 years) will tell you
- >that over 90% of the time if an electronic component is bad it
- >will fail quickly. That is why most reasonable manufacturers these
- >days ('cept Atari...but they're not reasonable) will burn in the
- >machine for 72 hours or so.
- >
-
- Tell that to an ancient computer running a spectrometer in our lab.
- Recently, it started behaving eratically (i.e. computes wrong numbers!)
- When we called the manufacturer, they suggested we pull out the cpu card
- and reseat all the socketed chips. It worked! We've had to do this
- twice now. My guess is that it's due to oxidation on the contacts of cheap
- sockets. Anyway, the moral is that
- although what you say is true for semiconductors, it is not always true
- for the conductors (mechanical conections).
-
- This thread about cheap PC clones is interesting. I remember when I bought
- my brand new 1040STf years ago that the first one didn't work right. The
- dealer then suggested I give it the twist (grab each end and twist) which
- he found works most of the time to seat some socketed chips inside. At the
- time, there were complaints here in this newsgroup about Atari using cheap
- sockets. Back then, Warwick's statement was being made in flame wars by
- PC clone and Macintosh advocates about the Atari ST.
-
- Marcelino Bernardo
- mbernar@erenj.com
-