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- From: a0m2504@zeus.tamu.edu (AKITOMO MORITA)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
- Subject: still 65802 problem
- Date: 27 Jan 1993 20:34 CST
- Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
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- Well, no one has answered my question sufficiently so I'll give some more
- details. The RANA Elite Hard drive came out over ten years ago so I would
- say it is Apple ][ compatible. It works fine in my ENHANCED Apple //e with
- a NCR 65C02. It will not work with a WDC 65C802. I know the problem is
- related to a timing problem since I took a logic probe to the board that
- interfaces to the card. Basically, the card uses C0F0-C0FF (when in
- slot 7) to select either a 1k ROM or one of 7k RAMs (8 total possibilities).
- It uses just the last three bits of the address line to select one of these
- using a 74ls138 3-to-8 decoder. It also uses 3 of the 74ls75's 4 D-FF to
- hold the current selection. The problem is that the D-FF's are holding the
- wrong number. I cannot trace the problem back toward the edge connector
- since the traces go under several IC's which I do not wish to take the time
- to desolder and solder back on later. The ROM on the card is slot
- independent and written for a 6502 (not a 65c02, I know this since I can
- disassemble it with the ROM monitor which cannot disassemble newer 65c02
- instructions). In case you're wondering, the WDC 65c802 is rated for 6Mhz,
- but this doesn't mean kaka since the computer will only run a 1.023 Mhz.
- I have the data sheets for a WDC 65C02, a WDC 65C802/816, and in the
- Apple //e technical reference, a NCR 65C02. I am not familiar enough with
- timing diagrams to be able to tell if the problem is a difference in timing
- between a NCR 65C02 and a WDC 65C802.
-
- What I want is any news of anybody experiencing trouble one they replaced a
- 65C02 with a 65C802. I don't care about who manufactured them, I want to
- know about the problems anyway. OR if anybody familiar with timing diagrams
- could tell me if it IS a timing problem between a NCR 65C02 and a WDC 65C802.
-
- Now, what I don't want are rumors, suggestions, or guesses. No offence to
- anybody, but I want to know what the problem IS, not what it could be.
-
- One more thing, the 65C802 upon power up starts in emulation mode (E=1) and
- I put it in emulation mode and tried the Hard Drive (just in case) and it
- still does not work.
-
- Thanx if you can help me,
- Akitomo Morita
- a0m2504@zeus.tamu.edu
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