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- From: neufeld@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Christopher Neufeld)
- Subject: Re: Odd Hardware Question
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- Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
- References: <dwellman.0ppa@amiganet.chi.il.us> <1993Jan26.152555.25661@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:29:21 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan26.152555.25661@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> mark@pokey.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Manning) writes:
- >It is kind of hard to tell exactly what is going on from the diagram.
- >However, if this is the kind of cable I am thinking it is (a ribbon
- >cable) then taping it is not going to do much good. The most likely
- >reason the system is crashing is because the wires are touching in
- >the ribbon cable. This means that somehow you have to separate the
- >wires with some kind of insulation. And on a ribbon cable this is
- >not an easy task.
- >
- Because of the way those cables are designed, it's hard to imagine
- the individual conductors touching each other. One thing about the end
- connector, it makes pretty well no difference if the entire top plate
- falls off, the conductors are all in good electrical contact with the
- appropriate pins on the plug which fits in the 65816 socket on your ][GS
- mother board. If the top plate is coming loose it is probably not the
- cause of your intermittent failures. Still, it can't hurt to find out.
- Just push the ends back together (see below).
-
- >Actually, I would take the entire thing out, open it carefully (if
- >possible) and see if you can replace the ribbon cable. If this is
- >possible, then Radio Shack or any number of other good electrical
- >outlet stores could get you a replacement cable.
- >
- If it is an intermittent short between the conductors, this is not
- necessary. Merely cut off the last two centimetres of the cable (ie. the
- part of the cable which is embedded in the plug; don't worry, there's
- quite a bit of cable there) and buy a new plug. They cost $10, I know
- since I broke one on my Zip. Once you have the new plug, put the cable
- through it and stick a thick piece of wood against the bottom half of the
- plug, between the pins, so that the wood projects out farther than the
- pins. Now you can use a workbench vise to squeeze the connector shut.
- This forces the pins knife-edges attached to the pins of the plug to go
- through the insulator of the ribbon cable and attach to the wires inside.
- I've done this a few times.
- You want to avoid having to replace the ribbon itself because the
- other end of it, the end which plugs onto the Zip board, is much narrower
- and so is more heavily stressed by the attachment procedure (smaller
- contact area, same force required to push through the insulator). You'd
- rather not have to attach that connector to a ribbon cable, if at all
- possible. There are special vises and attachments to do this, but they're
- ridiculously expensive.
-
- BTW, ribbon cables are very cheap, as are (plastic) end connectors. I
- built a SCSI daisy-chaining cable for $14 in parts obtained at a surplus
- store. It works very well.
-
- >If, however, you can not find a cable and chip assembly, then you
- >will have to get out your solder gun, call the manufacturer, and
- >go over how to create the thing. Again, you will be on your own
- >when you create the new cable and there is always the possibility that
- >you will do more damage than good - you just have to decide if that
- >is what you want to try.
- >
- You never solder these cables! That's why knife-clamp connectors were
- made, so you didn't have to worry about getting all 24 wires soldered
- properly with no shorts. The SCSI cable I made is a 50 pin ribbon and two
- 50 pin connectors. It took me less than three minutes to make all 100
- electrical connections with a vise and some padding (to protect the
- connectors from the corrugated metal faces of the vise).
-
-
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