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- From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
- Subject: Re: The HYDRA bidirectional file transfer protocol.
- Date: 25 Jan 1993 01:08:15 GMT
- Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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- References: <1993Jan23.182546.19169@cunews.carleton.ca>
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- In article <1993Jan23.182546.19169@cunews.carleton.ca>, Russell McOrmond (rmcormon@alfred.carleton.ca) wrote:
- : Filenotes are trivial to standardize, we just have to say "Sure,
- : I'll do it that way". With WPL it's totally user configurable.
- : Inbound filenotes are already in heavy use by many different programs
- : and there is no reason I can think of not to continue to use it. If
- : it ain't broke, don't fix it.
-
- I just feel that it would be "more complete" if the queue management
- was used both ways.
-
- : (Unlike the current non multi-thread capable and/or address dependant
- : methods for outbound handling such as UUCP C.#? or fonet #?.FLO files).
-
- (agreed)
-
- : What is the PURPOSE of keeping track of inbound files? For outbound
- : files it is obvious that you need to know what files are to go where -
- : For inbound the information can be gotten in any number of easier and
- : more efficient methods (Changing inbound directories, filenotes, etc,
- : etc).
-
- Unless, of course, you'd prefer not to hassle with multiple inbound
- directories, and again, the existence of no solid standard on
- filenotes which may be trashed by some programs, and may not exist on
- some filesystems. A tosser could simply say "give me all inbound
- stuff that corresponds with the following UUCP/Fido/GeekNet address:",
- and that would be it. No worrying about special cases, it's
- extensible, etc.
-
- Just because there are simple solutions available NOW doesn't mean
- there always will be, and that's the whole point of setting up open
- standards. The nonexistence of filenotes on some filesystems
- invaldates its use. Especially since there's a very good chance that
- someone would WANT to use that filesystem.
-
- : You'd have to do a lot of convincing (Or write the code yourself
- : <grin>) before I'd add 'inbound tracking with XferQ) into WPL as I
- : don't see the purpose.
-
- I don't have an immediate use for such things, however, I could easily
- find it helpful in the future. When the time comes, I may. :)
-
- : I will be doing that in the WPL programmers manual - With XferQ I'm
- : just a user.
-
- Okey. :)
-
- : The file request shell and WPL have nothing to do with each other,
- : except that a WPL based mailer will be compatable with the request
- : shell. There is absolutely no direct communication between this
-
- Right. The request shell is purely a function of XferQ.
-
- : request shell and WPL (BY DESIGN) so that if any other mailer author
- : added XferQ support to their mailer this request shell, and all
- : compatable file request handlers will automatically work.
-
- Right. That's the point. :) Just because I refer to it in terms of
- it being useful in combination with the WPL mailer doesn't mean I
- don't realize that it's based in XferQ. :)
-
- The existence of Xtools/Qtools/XQtools/whatever is important because
- at first, I'm not sure if there will be any mailers that support the
- XferQ standard. Will there be a FlowConvert-like utility available
- upon release of XferQ, or will that come later?
-
- : The FREQ shell's sources will be released public domain so that any
- : file request program author can just include code out of it and make
- : the request shell's use obsolite with their request handler.
-
- :) Good idea. Releasing it GPL would simply impose restrictions, and
- right now it's important to get widespread incorporation.
-
- Greg
-
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