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- From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
- Subject: Re: The HYDRA bidirectional file transfer protocol.
- Date: 21 Jan 1993 23:01:36 GMT
- Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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- References: <1993Jan21.174507.24478@cunews.carleton.ca>
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- In article <1993Jan21.174507.24478@cunews.carleton.ca>, Russell McOrmond (rmcormon@superior.carleton.ca) wrote:
- : There were protocol problems between Binkley and Binkley at one time,
- : but these have been resolved (Right about the time of the release of
- : FTS-0007).
-
- I knew there was SOMETHING like that. :) I've got to do something
- about my long-term memory. Like buy more memory, or perhaps a bigger
- HD. :)
-
- : An XPR had been started, but I'll let the authors comment as they
- : may have changed their mind.
-
- Who are the possible authors?
-
- : The XPR mailing list has quietened down - I think we need to just go
- : ahead and implement some ideas. We all seem to be waiting for someone
- : else to agree with an idea rather than just going for it and getting
- : it documented.
-
- Ahh. Okay. Got an update on that document you had at one time? Have
- the changes already been implemented into WPL?
-
- : Now who's pushing negative politics? Please put disclaimers on
-
- I _REALLY_ should have put a smiley on that one.
-
- : statements like the above as I don't want to get the negative flack
- : for it. I would also like to see some compatability form between WPL
- : and the utilities that the 'Trap crew' are writing. While WPL itself
-
- I'd like to see trap support XPR's.
-
- : is useless to them, support for future XPR libraries and xferq will
-
- (speak of the devil. :) I'd _LOVE_ to see TD support XferQ. We know
- they're reading, so maybe he'll see this note and reply.
-
- : give those third party authors a larger users base. It would be nice
- : for someone to be able to implement a HYDRA, JANUS, or whatever
- : protocol and instantly have a HUGE installed users base with
- : practically all fidonet systems,terminal packages and BBS packages
- : being able to support the protocol.
-
- Agreed. And support for XferQ would be a big step in the way of
- getting programs out there that are capable of using things in this
- format. It's the most extensible soltuion to the in/outbound queues yet.
-
- : This may be true, but it's also going to push other authors forward
- : which is a good thing.
-
- Lets hope so.
-
- : With the missing EMSI and Zmodem in the old application 'Welmat', the
- : Trap crew had it easy. It will be interesting for everyone to see
- : what ideas start to come out with the release of WPL.
-
- I'd say, as a guess, only those who were't dependent on their Fido
- systems were still willing to use it (on the lesser end, many
- multilines and those who simply liked the program or the price). Now
- that the stakes are much more "even", we'll have to see what people
- think. Hopefully, it'll spark life back into the game. Development
- for the networks needs to grow by leaps and bounds. It's been a while
- since I've had any kind of presence in the Fido community, and a
- viable cross-network system STILL doesn't exist. Hopefully, the
- current suite of GPL stuff will change that.
-
- : A very POSITIVE thing that could happen is that some standards could
- : form for mailer interfacing (Such as XPR and XferQ support in other
- : front ends) that will remove (as far as I am concerned) all of this
- : silly animosity that exists between various mailer authors. As far as
-
- I had meant that as a joke, I really wish I hadn't phrased it that
- way. Upon re-reading, it did look a little rough.
-
- : I'm concerned it's always been the third party utilities that become
- : 'Mailer XXX only' that has caused various problems - It would be nice
-
- Yup.
-
- : to be able to work TOGETHER with the Trap crew on things. Hopefully
- : once it has been very well debugged the Trap crew will consider
- : supporting Xferq (Whether by their own implementation of the interface
- : or not) in their Mailer and Tosser/scanner software.
-
- Lets hope that acceptance of XferQ will be high.
-
- : Are politics out of the way, or did you just introduce it yourself?
-
- I hope not. I just like to joke. :)
-
- : Flow.library addressed the first point, but failed miserably for the
- : other two points. One of the best things I will be doing (And am
- : currently involved in debugging) for WPL is to get rid of
- : flow.library. I do suspect that now that a proper outbound handler
- : exists, that the popularity of it will grow.
-
- Agreed. :) XferQ's got everything that flow.library doesn't.
-
- : I will definetely be doing anything that I can to encourage people
- : (expecially other mailer authors as that will solve the 'chicken and
- : egg' problem by handing out eggs) to support the library. The same
- : thing will be attempted with the new XPR documentation once we finally
- : decide on things.
-
- Are you still going to end up writing all of the documentation's code?
- Preliminary documentation has been extremely thorough. The autodocs
- could have used a "bit more", but they were relatively good.
-
- : Hmmm - Trying to start another argument with someone? Not a good way
- : to try to encourage support for something new. Let's look at things
- : positively rather than negatively and hope that things go well!
-
- Yeah, I'm beginning to see that all of these jokes I like to crack are
- going to get me in trouble. :) Ah well. Lets hope that I don't make
- things worse.
-
- We could always remove this, and take it to email. At least there
- nobody'll snarl at my jokes. :)
-
- Greg
-
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