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- From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
- Subject: re: SYSUAF.DAT access - the real world
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.164357.13732@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
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- References: <9301202243.AA01736@uu3.psi.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:43:57 GMT
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- In article <9301202243.AA01736@uu3.psi.com>, leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter) writes:
- >
- >Philip Perucci wrote that he needed to be able to provide access to SYSUAF.DAT
- >to someone working for the company comptroller. A number of people have taken
- >the opportunity to use this as an example of the stupidity of management, and
- >to say that there is basically no way to do this without giving that person
- >at least the ability to get any rights he likes.
- >
- [deleted]
- >
- >In Mr. Perucci's position, the ideal would be to be able to give the auditor
- >read-only access to the SYSUAF. Unfortunately, AUTHORIZE demands WRITE
- >access. I consider this a serious limitation, since it makes it unnecessarily
- >more difficult to implement an "outside auditor" facility. One way to do this
- >would be to give the auditor just read access and have him copy the live
- >SYSUAF.DAT to a private file, which he could then modify to his heart's
- >content without damaging anything. Another approach is to trust the auditor
- >not to do anything stupid - but have someone else check the audit logs for any
- >changes he might make to the SYSUAF. (Again, make sure two people have to
- >work together to subvert the system.)
-
- How about making a copy of SYSUAF.DAT and letting the auditor run AUTHORIZE
- against that. He might need to modify the SYSUAF logical, if it exists (hint
- to cluster managers), but this seems very neat. An auditor isn't really
- interested in the current system, just an image as of a known time.
-
- >
- >Of course, with the listings it should be simple to patch AUTHORIZE NOT to
- >demand write access - just pull out the explicit check. If it keels over when
- >someone tries to write to the file, well, big deal.
- > -- Jerry
- >
- >
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