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- From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
- Subject: Re: MAIL problems (not NEWMAIL count this time :-)
- Date: 22 Jan 1993 12:54:25 GMT
- Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
- Lines: 164
- Distribution: world
- Message-ID: <1joqq1INN32k@gap.caltech.edu>
- References: <1993Jan21.113047.1@vxdesy.desy.de>
- Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
- NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu
-
- In article <1993Jan21.113047.1@vxdesy.desy.de>, pawlak@vxdesy.desy.de writes:
- >Environment:
- >VAX-VMS 5.5-1
- >Motif 1.1
- >Hardware:
- >uVAX II (plase, don't laugh) displaying on a VAXStation (via DECNET).
- >
- >Problem: usign DECWindows MAIL I composed a message and tried to send it out
- >(with a copy to myself). What I saw in the Message window was:
- >
- >Sending mail...
- >Message sent to user ... at ....
- >Error sending to user PAWLAK.
- >Error writing DUA1:[PAWLAK.MAIL]MAIL.MAI;1.
- >Duplicate key detected (DUP not set).
- >Send completed with errors.
- >
- >There is no Facility/Ident in these messages, but the text sounds like
- >RMS DUP message (Duplicate key in indexed file and no DUPLICATES ALLOWED
- >attribute set). The questions is how does MAIL construct the key then? I
- >tried to send the message again (to myself only), changing the Subject
- >field - nothing, I still can't put this one specific message into my
- >MAIL.MAI. So it seems that neither send time nor header contents have
- >anything to do with it. I checked that I can send myself other messages
- >and that others can send messages to me - so the MAIL.MAI file structure
- >seems OK. Any ideas how to get the message stored in my mail file?
-
- This looks like a job for....
-
- $ ANAL/RMS/FDL
-
- in particular,
- $ ANAL/RMS/FDL [.MAIL]MAIL.MAI
- $ TYPE MAIL.FDL
- IDENT "22-JAN-1993 04:44:02 VAX/VMS ANALYZE/RMS_FILE Utility"
-
- SYSTEM
- SOURCE VAX/VMS
-
- FILE
- ALLOCATION 744
- (yeah, I know, time to clean out my MAIL file :-)
- BEST_TRY_CONTIGUOUS yes
- BUCKET_SIZE 5
- CLUSTER_SIZE 3
- CONTIGUOUS no
- EXTENSION 15
- FILE_MONITORING no
- GLOBAL_BUFFER_COUNT 0
- NAME "$1$DIA0:[CARL.MAIL]MAIL.MAI;1"
- ORGANIZATION indexed
- OWNER [WFPC,CARL]
- PROTECTION (system:RW, owner:RW, group:, world:)
-
- RECORD
- BLOCK_SPAN yes
- CARRIAGE_CONTROL none
- FORMAT variable
- SIZE 2048
-
- AREA 0
- ALLOCATION 723
- BEST_TRY_CONTIGUOUS yes
- BUCKET_SIZE 5
- EXTENSION 15
-
- AREA 1
- ALLOCATION 6
- BEST_TRY_CONTIGUOUS yes
- BUCKET_SIZE 5
- EXTENSION 5
-
- AREA 2
- ALLOCATION 15
- BEST_TRY_CONTIGUOUS yes
- BUCKET_SIZE 3
- EXTENSION 3
-
- KEY 0
- CHANGES no
- DATA_KEY_COMPRESSION no
- DATA_RECORD_COMPRESSION yes
- DATA_AREA 0
- DATA_FILL 100
- DUPLICATES no
- INDEX_AREA 1
- INDEX_COMPRESSION no
- INDEX_FILL 100
- LEVEL1_INDEX_AREA 1
- NAME ""
- NULL_KEY no
- PROLOG 3
- SEG0_LENGTH 8
- SEG0_POSITION 0
- TYPE bin8
-
- KEY 1
- CHANGES yes
- DATA_KEY_COMPRESSION yes
- DATA_AREA 2
- DATA_FILL 100
- DUPLICATES yes
- INDEX_AREA 2
- INDEX_COMPRESSION yes
- INDEX_FILL 100
- LEVEL1_INDEX_AREA 2
- NAME ""
- NULL_KEY yes
- NULL_VALUE 0
- SEG0_LENGTH 39
- SEG0_POSITION 9
- TYPE string
-
- ANALYSIS_OF_AREA 0
- RECLAIMED_SPACE 0
-
- ANALYSIS_OF_AREA 1
- RECLAIMED_SPACE 0
-
- ANALYSIS_OF_AREA 2
- RECLAIMED_SPACE 0
-
- ANALYSIS_OF_KEY 0
- DATA_FILL 69
- DATA_KEY_COMPRESSION 0
- DATA_RECORD_COMPRESSION 13
- DATA_RECORD_COUNT 725
- DATA_SPACE_OCCUPIED 720
- DEPTH 1
- INDEX_COMPRESSION 0
- INDEX_FILL 56
- INDEX_SPACE_OCCUPIED 5
- LEVEL1_RECORD_COUNT 144
- MEAN_DATA_LENGTH 391
- MEAN_INDEX_LENGTH 10
-
- ANALYSIS_OF_KEY 1
- DATA_FILL 76
- DATA_KEY_COMPRESSION 76
- DATA_RECORD_COUNT 54
- DATA_SPACE_OCCUPIED 12
- DEPTH 1
- DUPLICATES_PER_SIDR 19
- INDEX_COMPRESSION 80
- INDEX_FILL 2
- INDEX_SPACE_OCCUPIED 3
- LEVEL1_RECORD_COUNT 3
- MEAN_DATA_LENGTH 86
- MEAN_INDEX_LENGTH 41
-
- As you can see, it's KEY 0 that doesn't allow duplicates. It's a BIN8 key,
- which means it uses 8 bytes of binary data. These 8 bytes happen to be the
- system time that the message was delivered. It appears that mail is trying to
- deliver the message, but finds that another message has already arrived at
- exactly the same time. Now, this seems highly unlikely, though it's possible.
- Perhaps you could send us the output of an ANAL/RMS/FDL on YOUR mail file?
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL
-
- Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My
- understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So
- unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
- organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
- hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
-