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- From: mike@array.com (Mike Willett)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
- Subject: Coherent FAQ, General Information
- Keywords: FAQ, General, Coherent, OS
- Message-ID: <3019@monarch.array.com>
- Date: 23 Jan 93 01:57:43 GMT
- Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA
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- A N I N T R O D U C T I O N T O T H E C O H E R E N T F O R U M :
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- Comp.os.coherent (Usenet) / Coherent list on ListServ@IndyCMS
- Rev. 2.3
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- A N I N T R O D U C T I O N T O C O H E R E N T
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- General Information FAQ for the Coherent Operating System
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- C O N T E N T S :
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- What is Coherent?
- Will Coherent run on my system?
- What incompatibilities are known?
- Can I still run DOS?
- What about technical support?
- What revision is Coherent?
- How many people run Coherent?
- Can source postings be made in this newsgroup (comp.os.coherent)?
- Public domain software:
- Where do I get the public domain software?
- Heated discussions of the group:
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- MISC:
- Disclaimer:
- Trademarks:
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- A N I N T R O D U C T I O N T O C O H E R E N T
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- WHAT IS COHERENT?
- Coherent is a multi-tasking, multi-user operating system for IBM
- PC's and compatibles. It will run on most systems with a 286,
- 386, or 486 CPU. Coherent closely represents the Unix operating
- system, but, it is not Unix. Coherent appears to be very similar
- to Version 7 Unix, or for those of you that have not had the
- pleasure, close to System 5 Unix. Coherent includes uucp (Coherent
- to Coherent Copy) :) and many more functions you would expect with
- Unix. Coherent is small and simple, easy to maintain, and does not
- require extensive CPU resources to operate well. It does not have
- network nor X windows support, and does not require an AT&T
- license for Unix. It is as advertised, a quick, elegant Unix-like
- multi-tasking, multi-user Operating System, with good
- documentation.
-
- WILL COHERENT RUN ON MY SYSTEM?
- Coherent runs on just about all 286-386-486 systems. To list them
- here would make this document far too lengthy. It is suggested
- that if you are in doubt, buy Coherent, and when it is almost
- beyond a doubt that you can not run Coherent on your machine, to
- return the software and documentation to the the Mark Williams
- Company within 60 days for a full refund as per their policy.
-
- WHAT INCOMPATIBILITIES ARE KNOWN?
- IBM XT compatibles will not work, since the Coherent version 3.2
- operating system uses the 286 protected mode. Coherent version
- 4.0 only works on 386 or 486 proccessors and operates in the 386
- protected mode.
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- Coherent will not run on an AT&T 6300, IBM PS/2 model, or with the
- Western Digital WD1004-27X (XT) or other XT controllers. Coherent
- exhibits a slight problem with some 386 AMI BIOS, whereas Coherent
- requires a cold boot (hit the reset switch, not CTL- ALT-DEL) to
- boot Coherent after previously running DOS. The latest revisions
- of the AMI BIOS may not exibit this problem.
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- CAN I STILL RUN DOS?
- Yes, Coherent can reside on a disk partition separate from DOS,
- and likewise DOS on a partition separate from Coherent. You can
- boot either one at boot time via a "boot strap" program. They
- will not run concurrently however. DOS file systems are available
- to Coherent with the Coherent DOS command, so files can be
- transferred from DOS to Coherent, Coherent to DOS.
-
- WHAT ABOUT TECHNICAL SUPPORT?
- It is generally felt that Mark Williams Company provides excellent
- technical support of their software within the U.S.A.. They can
- be reached via phone (708) 291-6700, or email:
-
- uunet!mwc!support (General uucp address)
- support@mwc.com (Internet address)
- mwcbbs!support (from your system directly to the uucp connection
- they provided by the Mark Williams Company)
-
- WHAT REVISION IS COHERENT?
- Coherent is offered in two revisions. Revision 3.2 will run on
- systems with a 286 or higher processor, but does not take
- advantage of the 386 architecture, and has the 64K executable and
- 64K data limits. Revision 3.2 is the last revision of Coherent
- for the 286 protected mode OS. Bug fixes will continue to be
- posted to mwcbbs to support customers of the 3.2 version.
-
- COHERENT 4.0 was announced in May of 1992, and is targeted for the
- 386 and 486 processors. This revision does not have the 64K
- limits of revision 3.2, but, still does not include a virtual
- memory system that swaps pages out to disk. See the 4.0 specific
- FAQ posted with this FAQ for more information.
-
- Both versions of OS are available at $99.00, and updates from 3.2
- to 4.0 are now priced at $79.00.
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- HOW MANY PEOPLE RUN COHERENT?
- The Mark Williams Company has stated that the sales volume has
- passed 40,000 copies since its introduction to the market in 1990.
-
- CAN POSTINGS BE MADE IN THIS NEWS GROUP (COMP.OS.COHERENT)?
- It is somewhat accepted that source for Coherent will be posted in
- this news group occasionally. Keep in mind that large postings
- cost money to those that pay for telephone and connect time, so
- perhaps a short posting to query general interest should precede
- the posting. Direct mailing should be used if there is small
- interest, and a posting to archive sites such as raven.alaska.edu.
- If the interest is overwhelming, a posting to this news group may
- be in order, along with posting to an archive site such as
- raven.alaska.edu. Posting to this newsgroup has been a topic of
- constant debate... :( We hope to have a source news group for
- coherent, yet another topic of debate... :)
-
- PUBLIC DOMAIN SOFTWARE:
- Several public domain packages are available for use on a Coherent
- machine. These range from improved mailing packages and spread
- sheets, to at least four news programs, such as bsnews, cnews,
- gnews, wnews, along with readers such as rn, tass, tin and more.
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- WHERE DO I GET THE PUBLIC DOMAIN SOFTWARE?
- There are several ways to get public domain software:
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- 1. Mark Williams Company bbs (mwcbbs)
- 2. FTP sites
- 3. Mailserver (ListServ@IndyCMS)
- 4. The OZ / NZ Coherent Users Group
- 5. The Pacific Australian Coherent Users Group
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- MWCbbs (mwcbbs)
- Access information on the mwcbbs is included in the documentation
- provided with Coherent. In short, it is a uucp site with public
- domain software as well as updates to the Coherent release, along
- with Coherent news (not usenet) and a "home" for all Coherent
- sites to uucp to. For most of us, that is a long distance phone
- call, as the Mark Williams Company is located in Illinois.
-
- FTP sites:
- Jay C. Beavers has been keeping the Coherent Archives for quite
- some time on the ftp site orca.alaska.edu, and has moved these to
- an Ultrix machine for better access (raven). When a previous ftp
- site was no longer available, Jay quickly put raven into action.
- Hats off to Jay!
-
- Machine I'net Address Archive administrator
- --------------- ------------- ----------------------------------
- raven.alaska.edu 137.229.10.39 J.C. Beavers:sxjcb@orca.alaska.edu
-
- on raven: cd /pub/coherent
-
- MailServers:
- ListServ@IndyCMS has been offering a mailserver service since
- before the start of comp.os.coherent. It is a gateway between two
- nets:
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- Machine Address Mailserver Administrator
- ------------------------------------ ------------------------
- ListServ@IndyCMS (CREN) IJBH200@IndyVAX (CREN)
- ListServ@IndyCMS.IUPUI.Edu (Internet) IJBH200@IndyVAX.IUPUI.Edu (I)
-
- Coherent@IndyCMS is bidirectional gateway between the ListServ
- list Coherent and Usenet newsgroup comp.os.coherent co-owned and
- coordinated by John Harlan and Phil Corporon. All original
- postings to comp.os.coherent Usenet group are automatically
- distributed to the ListServ list, and everything posted to the
- ListServ list Coherent, is automatically posted to
- comp.os.coherent on Usenet. John Harlan humorously adds: "And all
- without mail looping :-)"
-
- To get a list of Coherent files from ListServ, mail the ListServ
- mailserver as follows, with the contents of the message being the
- mailserver command:
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- % mail ListServ@IndyCMS.IUPUI.Edu
- Subject: (none)
-
- INDEX COHERENT
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- Privately Owned BBSs:
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- The Australian Coherent Users Group:
- (From: rjl@spectre.pub.uu.oz.au.)
- In order to support Coherent users in oz & nz, Mark Williams
- Co. have agreed to supply a mirror of the downloads directory
- from their uucp BBS in the states for distribution here [in
- Australia]. This is being supplied to the Australian Coherent
- User Group, initially in one 13MB chunk to get things kicked
- off, then subsequently updated on a monthly basis.
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- Software is available to all registered Coherent users, and
- may be obtained either by direct UUCP transfer from this
- machine, or on 1.2MB floppies for a nominal media/postage
- charge.
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- Anyone interested in this, or in ACUG in general, (as well as
- in APANA - the Australian Public Access Network Association)
- may contact me by email at rjl@spectre.pub.uu.oz.au.
-
- Australia-Pacific Coherent User Group.
- (Robert Chalmers. d10590@tanus.edu.au. Mackay, Queensland. Australia)
- ---------------------* ao zhong youyi wan sui *----------------------
- Privately operated public uucp site, based in Mackay, North
- Queensland, Australia. The system connected 24 hours a 7
- days a week, apart from some down time for maintenance.
- Purely Coherent system. Technical: 386-25DX, 4Mb RAM, 130Mb
- IDE HDD. 1 x 1.2, 1 x 1.44 FDD. Maestro 2400ZXR Modem.
- Wangtek Tape Drive.(not yet working).Cannon BJ330 bubble jet.
- Version 4.00 Coherent. Mono.
-
- Support: Robert can pass on internet fixes and messages to
- local users, such as this FAQ, and is a MIRROR site for MWC,
- receiving thly updates from MWC. Can supply elm, tin and
- wnews red.
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- Contact details: (There are no fees or subscriptions involved.)
- APCUG nanguo!root (AUS)
- UUCP mwcbbs!nanguo!earth (USA)
- UUCP nanguo!root +61 79 521070 AEST:24 Hours. in:nuucp rd:uupublic
- MYNAME=bbsuser in your Permissions file.
- Info is in ~/INFO
-
- Home address: 22 Minster Street.
- Mackay. 4740
- Queensland. Australia. ( The Coral Coast )
-
- Currently the site supports uucp using a chat script exactly
- the same as the mwcbbs chat script listed in their manual.
- The public directory is really /usr/spool/uucppublic. The
- default directory is available for incoming material and the
- INFO file, which contains most of the details concerning me
- and the site.
-
- Direct login is also available using the following login and
- passwd. login: public passwd: coherent
-
- This is a public user area, mostly used by my students
- locally, but you are welcome to log in and leave mail. (mail
- root). Modem details are: 2400 N81. (v22bis). Please note
- that you MUST have MYNAME=bbsuser in the Permissions file for
- site nanguo and uucp, or Coherent will return a site unknown
- error. Even if you only uucp mail to me, mail nanguo!root,
- all are welcome to use these facilities for the exchange of
- information.
- Bob Chalmers.
-
- HEATED DISCUSSIONS OF THE GROUP:
- Mark Williams Company has a patent on bit ordering, which is a
- software patent. Most think that this is obvious art in software,
- and should not be patentable, not to mention a move in the
- software world (i.e., FSF) that "software" should not be
- patentable in the first place. The Mark Williams Company has
- committed to comment on this some time in the future.
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- DISCLAIMER:
- ANY REFERENCE TO THIS ARTICLE, IN ANY FORM, IS PURELY AT YOUR OWN RISK!
- All opinions, tips, and instructions in this article are those of
- the contributors, and not of any company associated with the
- individual contributor, or any company mentioned in this article.
- The information contained within is not guaranteed to be free of
- errors in any way.
-
- The intention of this note is only to inform curious usenet
- readers about some aspects of the operating system of Coherent,
- and those companies mentioned are encouraged to add corrections,
- additions, or suggest deletions to this note to as per their
- policy or willingness to provide positive criticism.
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- TRADEMARKS
- Unix is the trademark of AT&T / Unix System Laboratories, Inc.
- Coherent is the trademark of the Mark Williams Company.
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- mike@array.com So much fun, so little time to enjoy it....
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