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- From: pauld@cs.washington.edu (Paul Barton-Davis)
- Subject: Re: Reproduction Methods
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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 22:15:02 GMT
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- In article <C19x7D.DK3@cs.columbia.edu> evs@cs.columbia.edu (Eric Siegel) writes:
- >pauld@cs.washington.edu (Paul Barton-Davis) says:
- >
- >> One really interesting feature that I have observed from my own work
- >> with a tierra-like system is the effect of a reproductive burden on
- >> the speed of evolution. ...
- >
- >> So, in normal GA-land, you simply use the "hand of god"
- >> approach: you reach in, and *you* do the reproduction, eliminating any
- >> selection pressure on this feature. ...
- >
- >> But wait ! Perhaps, just perhaps, this reproductive feature is just
- >> what you want. Its not very difficult to make a tierra-like system
- >> evolve its own form of crossover. All kinds of other wierd and
- >> wonderful reproductive mechanisms evolve too. It seems possible to me
- >> that when evolution is viewed as explorations of a vast state space,
- >> particular reproductive methods might be incapable of ever searching
- >> some particular areas of that space. Leaving the system free to devise
- >> its own reproductive strategies opens up the possibility of exploring
- >> areas of the state space that "programmer/user-selected" methods might
- >> not.
- >
- >Solution: A GA organism does not only represent a "vector" in the
- >solution space of the domain problem, but also has (seperately)
- >encoded a "vector" in _reproduction method space_ (e.g. Weights
- >of crosss-over, mutation; Number of cross-over points, etc. A big
- >research area?)
-
- Well, not really. This still leaves the programmer to devise an
- appropriate set of reproductive methods. The beauty of tierra is that
- (1) no fitness function for reproductive fitness is needed, because it
- is implicit in the ranking of the genome within the population and (2)
- any reproductive method anyone could ever dream up can potentially
- evolve within the system, as well as few that no-one ever would.
-
- >Yeah, I was just thinking about evolution a month ago, and said to my
- >friend over lunch, "you ever realize that the manner by which evolution
- >takes place evolves?"
-
- My precise point. Programmers trying to second-guess what makes it
- tick seems like an unnecessary constraint.
-
- >This comparison between tierra-like systems and GAs reminds me: In the
- >former, an effective upper-limit on time spent running an organism's
- >program is implicit in the organism's environment.
-
- Want to explain what you mean ? I don't see such an upper-limit, other
- than the one imposed by the realities of the host system (ie. real
- world physics).
-
- -- paul
-
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