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- From: 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (John LaRocque)
- Subject: Re: INTolerance in Quebec
- Organization: University of Western Ont, London
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:47:06 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan25.041258.18018@spxtech.qc.ca>, steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter) writes:
-
- > My wife and I are both Canadian citizens (since July 1984). We landed in
- > Quebec in September of 1980. We were both educated in English in England
- > and have (or had - my wife's parents died) English speaking parents. We
- > can NOT send our English speaking children to English school in Quebec!
-
- What a shame. After all, what can be more English than England? (:-) )
-
- > The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms paragraph 23(1)(b) (the educated
- > in minority language of the province part you are referring to) only applies
- > to Canadian citizens - that is correct. Paragraph 23(1)(a) provides for
- > citizens whose mother tongue is that of the minority language population
- > of the province in which they reside to be able to send their children to
- > schooling in that language. Paragraph 23(1)(a) is not applicable in Quebec
- > because Jean Chretien put paragraph 59 in the 1982 Constitution agreement.
-
- > Anyone who (even if they were educated in english, or whose mother tongue
- ~~~~~~~
- > is english) came to Quebec after Bill 101 became applicable on 26th august,
- ~~~~~~~ YO STEVE, THAT's FRENGLISH. LIKE SAYING < On parle Anglais. >
-
- > 1977 (whether they are Canadian citizens or not) can not send their
- > children to English schools in Quebec. Their children are declared
- > "ineligible" for instruction in English!
- > There are about 10,000 to 13,000 english speaking children thus affected in
- > Quebec.
-
- > CAE Electronics offered a decent relocation package and a decent salary at
- > the time.
- > Quebec House in London said nothing of the racist policies of the Quebec
- > legislature during our 'interviews' before we came over here.
- > Bill 178 (the stupid signs law) was the trigger for me (and many others).
- > Now I'm mad as hell and I'm doing my best to get this legislation fixed.
-
- > There are ways to encourage the use of French in Quebec without denying
- > people basic human rights.
-
- Listen. Many of us agree with you. But it is so repetitious that it seems
- that your real target is ordinary Quebecers as opposed to bad legislation.
- (that being said, they did vote for the MNA's).
-
- > There are immersion programs available in English schools here. Anyone
- > coming here who doesn't want his children to learn French (if they
- > intend to stay here) is nuts, IMHO.
-
- What a smart attitude. Too bad English Quebecers from way back (the rich
- ones) didn't have the same attitude.
-
- > I have no problem with my children learning French. I think they have
- > a better opportunity to learn French here in Quebec than I did in
- > England years ago.
- > That's not the issue.
-
- We know what is the issue. By now I believe 98% of us have heard
- your arguments. But I digress....
-
- > It is a question of being allowed to be a fully legitimate member of
- > whatever is left of the English community in which we have chosen to
- > live. That, naturally, includes the right to send our children to
- > publicly funded English schools here if we choose to do so.
-
- Sorry I couldn't have more to say. We haven't been at each other's
- throats for some time. Maybe your next post will set me off. :-)
-
- That being said, you are getting very repetitious, and somewhat
- annoying (even if you are right). Cool off a little and try
- distracting yourself with a few new topics.
-
- > ///==================================================================\\\
- > ||| Steve Potter: steven@spxtech.qc.ca |||
- > ||| Expertise/Experience: Computer Systems Engineering / Real Ale / |||
- > ||| Politics in Education in Quebec |||
-