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- From: rbutterw@math.uwaterloo.ca (Ray Butterworth [MFCF])
- Subject: Re: Comparisons based on skin colour/ethnicity or Male/Female
- Message-ID: <C1H9xv.55z@math.uwaterloo.ca>
- Keywords: Discrimination, Statistics, Study, Race
- Organization: Math Faculty Computing Facility, University of Waterloo
- References: <T7NyXB1w165w@gtm-inc.com>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:22:42 GMT
- Lines: 43
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- In article <T7NyXB1w165w@gtm-inc.com> chrise@gtm-inc.com (Chris Ecclestone) writes:
- >My question is this : If statistics are to be
- >kept, why are they not kept for all possible dividing (or uniting)
- >criteria?
-
- Mostly because there is probably no significant correlation of such
- things to anything (other than to race), and because even if there were
- a correlation to something else, most people wouldn't care anyway.
-
- We can normally tell with a quick glance from a distance what your
- approximate race and sex are, and that is useful for our natural
- desire to stereotype. If I have to get close enough to see your
- eyes or ask your shoe size, I'd be dealing with you as an individual
- and then it would be more difficult to use my prejudices.
-
- Traditionally, race and sex had a strong correlation to one's culture
- and position in life. Knowing such things about someone could quickly
- provide a lot of information about that person, and in nearly all
- cases the information would be correct. This could be very useful,
- and in those very few cases where it was incorrect, the person
- involved would be a very unusual individual and quite used to
- being mistaken for something else.
-
- In modern times, in cosmopolitan areas, these stereotypes are in
- general no longer accurate enough to be useful.
- Unfortunately that does not stop people from using them.
-
-
- >What are people trying to prove with all these racist (sexist)
- >statistics?
-
- People try to prove whatever they want to prove with statistics,
- and other people believe whatever they want to believe when they
- hear them. If you understand what statistics really are and don't
- have a strong desire to believe the claims, then in most cases it
- will be quite obvious that the proof is garbage.
-
-
- To answer a different form of your question, "why ARE statistics
- kept for race and sex?", there are two quite different reasons.
- One, to prove that the stereotypes are correct, and the other
- to prove that stereotyping is still being used when there is
- no justification for it.
-