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- From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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- Subject: Re: Inauguration prayer
- Date: 22 Jan 1993 06:27:23 GMT
- Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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- In a previous article, ccjn@UNIX.CC.EMORY.EDU (Joyce Neu) says:
-
- >Thanks for some of your comments on Billy Graham's prayer. Ruth--I don't
- >hold a thing against Billy Graham for doing what he does. I'm sorry to see
- >this symbolism, hollow or not, perpetuated.
- >
- I'm not, not really. But then, this particular one wouldn't bother *me*
- in particular in any case.:-/ How about the masonic symbolism on the
- back of the dollar bill?
- >
- >I take exception at 2 points above: 1) the notion that those excluded
- >should just ignore the exclusion, and 2) that it's pointless to "become
- >upset about something that's essentially hollow." Am I carrying this too
- >far to say that many in our society have only become included because they
- >have _not_ ignored the exclusion, and because they have not believed it
- >pointless to become upset--and have taken positive, constructive action to
- >change the situation?
-
- Yes, because the key word is upset. Unlike some things, if everyone
- ignores a tradition, it generally goes away. At least for the most part.
-
- >> itself uses "man" or "men" as an inclusive term for both sexes. So even
- >> if he didn't mean to say it, he said it.:-) [just a linguistic quibble from
- >
- >"Man," "men," "he," "his," etc. are _not_ perceived as inclusive terms for
- >both sexes by college women given a series of sentences to rate as
- >including a) only women; b) only men; c) men and women. Female college
-
- Apples and oranges, Joyce. [sorry to be curt, but I'm about out of time]
- I'm talking about language and dictionaries, and you're talking about
- psychology. They're related, but not identical, and not really
- comparable.
-
- >
- --
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