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- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:05:59 EST
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- From: BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
- Subject: Re: Asians
- In-Reply-To: Message of Sun,
- 24 Jan 1993 21:47:08 CST from <samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU>
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- >"Oriental" is probably a vaguer term in that it still includes the
- >middle east etc. I can't think of anyone who will, in everyday speech,
- >refer to, say, Greeks as "oriental". "Asians" on the other hand, are
- >definitely east of India. In fact, what to call Indians seems to be a
- >problem. "Middle Easterners" are fine, "Asians" are fine, but somehow
- >neither includes India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, and
- >a little bit to the west, say Afghanistan and perhaps even Iran. Iraqis
- >and further west, I think, will be definitely called "middle eastern"
- >while even Burmese, Malaysians, Indonesians, etc will be unhesitatingly
- >called "Asians".
-
- This is a near-perfect mapping of usage (minus the Greek business). But
- why is what to call Indians a problem? You call them Indians. Pakistanis
- and Afghanis et al. are called by their names. So what if "Middle Easterners"
- or "Asians" excludes them? Linguistic illogic.
-
- brad
-