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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:08:38 EST
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- From: "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
- Subject: Re: Question for Torkel
- Comments: To: words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu
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- >> There is an added complication in that there are actually two versions
- >> of Norwegian, over which there have been fierce language wars in Norway.
- >
- >Which Norwegians speak Bokmal and which Nynorsk? Is the split regional?
- >Social? Other? How did both happen to become "Standard Norwegian(s)"?
- >
- >> But only the Norwegians themselves understand one iota of this controversy.
-
- I just spent half-an-hour with Trygg Engen, retired psychology prof and
- full time Norwegian-living-in-the-US, and have gleaned the following data:
-
- Bokmal is the "formal", older Norwegian language...it contains a lot of
- borrowed words from Danish, collected during the 400 years that the Danes
- ran Norway. There are also *many* dialects of Norwegian, spoken in the
- villages and small towns. Along around the 20's or 30's, a self-taught
- linguist named Ivar Aasen determined to "cleanse" Norwegian, and created
- Nynorsk ("New Norwegian") by replacing Danish words with "true" Norwegian
- words collected from the various dialects, where they were presumably not
- influenced by the foreigners.
-
- Ibsen wrote in Bokmal. Trygg says that he hears the works of Ibsen as
- "Danish" sounding. On the other hand, he says he and his friends sneered
- at Nynorsk when they were taught it in school. I forgot to ask if that
- was in comparison to Bokmal or to his own local dialect.
-
- Reference: A book of lectures by Einar Haugen, published 10 or 15
- years ago. Haugen was a linguist at U. Wisconsin, who later went to
- Harvard, and has since retired in Massachusetts. Trygg reports that he
- wrote to Haugen, asking some questions about all this, and never got an
- answer.
-
- love, judith, scholar
-