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- Original-From: Ken Wolman <mhwpa!ktw>
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- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:43:38 EST
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- From: ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
- Subject: Re: Torture, again.
- In-Reply-To: <no.id>; from "Karen Kay" at Jan 21, 93 11:41 am
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- > The ultimately chilling conclusion is that torturer's MUST have normal
- > personalities--"Any of us, in a similar situation, might be capable of
- > the same cruelty. One probably cannot train a deranged sadist to be an
- > effective torturer or killer. He must be in complete control of himself
- > on the job."
- >
- > The evidence for this is quite convincing, but I still want to deny it.
- > I guess that's just my American Optimism.
-
- I have only anecdotal non-evidence picked up from reading about the
- Holocaust. What I remember suggested that the concentration camp SS
- guards and the men who operated the gas chambers didn't seem to fit
- any single conception of what makes a human being do things like that.
- Surely, some of these men (and women?) were scum before they ever put
- on a uniform. Others, like the doctors, were trained as healers, not
- as people whose main job was to determine who could work as a slave
- and who would go to the gas. Still others--I would guess the
- majority--were perfectly ordinary people who were trained, schooled,
- or whatever into regarding their victims as faceless and dehumanized.
-
- The teaching and learning part is what is most horrifying. HOW that
- is done is beyond me. How do you convince other people, and how do
- you convince yourself, that a Jewish baby is a rag doll into which you
- can stick a bayonet; or that the screams of 2000 people at a time
- being put to death by a slow-working commercial insecticide are not
- the silent cries of insects? I don't know: if you want to call that
- part of the Banality of Evil, fine. I prefer to think of it as one of
- the ultimate Mysteries of Evil. It was played out in Mexico, the
- American West, Armenia, and the Soviet Union before the Nazis
- technologized it. It was played out in Greece, Argentina, and Chile
- in the 1960s and 1970s. It is being played out now in Bosnia. And
- the question repeats itself: "How in God's name do these people LIVE
- with themselves?"
-
- Maybe not all do. There are stories that some of the extermination
- camp guards mutinied and refused to do their "jobs." There are
- stories of men like the SS officer Kurt Gerstein who went to the
- Vatican to ask Pope Pius XII to intervene. There are still others of
- SS men who maneuvered to save at least some of their victims because
- they could not deal with what they were doing. There are others of
- guards who became alcoholics, drug addicts, and suicides...maybe to
- still the sounds of those screams and their consciences.
-
- And there were others who enjoyed it. I don't know the answer.
-
- Ken
-