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- From: wrolf@csfb1.uucp (Wrolf Courtney)
- Subject: Re: Pony bottles
- Message-ID: <C19wJv.Cyx@csfb1.fir.fbc.com>
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- Organization: First Boston Corporation
- References: <9301201437.AA15055@lanmail.NCSC.NAVY.MIL>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:50:18 GMT
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- In article <9301201437.AA15055@lanmail.NCSC.NAVY.MIL> Mahan_Stephen@LANMAIL.NCSC.NAVY.MIL writes:
- >>> (remarks about navy buddy teams, and discipline..)
- >
- >We use dual ALU 80's, gauged before each dive (common manifold, no
- >isolation possible). 1800 psi minimum to enter the water. Divers use
- >US Divers Conshelf XIV regs, no octopus except for the standby diver.
- >The left cylinder has a reserve valve which is left closed during the
- >dive. There is NO redundancy for air supply failures except for the
- >resources of your buddy (buddy breathing and ascend). BTW, we NEVER
- >plan to do a decompression dive on SCUBA. When your bottom time is
- >about up, the recall device is sounded. If there's no response, there
- >will be an M-80 (explosive) on the way down to attract your attention.
- >(It does :-).
- >
- As I understand it, the Navy does plenty of decompression diving, but only
- on surface supplied air. Is this correct in your experience?
-
- Surface supply is not an option for most wreck divers. Deco diving is therefore
- done on SCUBA, but only with full redundancy. In wreck infested waters, e.g.
- New York/New Jersey, or the British Isles, a lot of the good wrecks are in the
- 100' to 150' range. Less than 100' and they get knocked around a lot in the
- winter storms, less than 60' and the Coastguard wire drags them as a menace
- to shipping. In this depth range, air diving with decompression stops is the
- most practical way to go. A lot of the deep stuff is done with nitrox or
- pure oxygen on the shallow stops, typically only as a safety measure, since
- most of these divers are using commercial computers, which can currently
- only handle air.
-
- >
- >The regs are overhauled every 6 months. Pressure and depth gauges are
- >checked for accuracy/calibrated every 6 months. Regulators are
- >checked before each water entry (air on, free breathing, no free
- >flow, tank pressure adequate). The dive supervisor PERSONALLY inspects
- >each diver and fills out a checksheet before each water entry.
-
- Your equipment maintenance and inspection level is probably beyond that of
- even the most safety conscious wreck diver (NOT AN OXYMORON).
- An especially interesting question for me how often you have fall back to
- plan B (buddy breathing and ascend.)
-
- >
- >We are planning to go to octopus rigs for each diver when we are able
- >to purchase the additional second stages.
- >
- How would you feel about the wreck diver standard isolation manifold.
- This will mean that you have to move from yoke to DIN, and buy first
- stages as well as second stages, but you get complete redundancy, and the
- use of all your air for air sharing.
- >
- >>Safe Diving
- >
- >We try. It's been about 16 years at this command since anyone required
- >a chamber ride/had an injury requiring time off dive status. There are
- >dives 3-4 times a week. Please note (for the nitpickers) that this
- >does not include NEDU (Naval Experimental Diving Unit) or NDSTC (Naval
- >Dive and Salvage Training Center). Both of these organizations are
- >located here but are separate commands.
- >
- Excellent record!
-
- >
- >>Wrolf Courtney
- >
- >steve
-
-
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