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- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:09:47 -0800
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- From: Tom Downey <downey@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
- Subject: RE: CowPlop Fans
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- I agree with Matthew...I had hoped that the discussion here would be more
- scholarly and critical...I can have this type of discussion over a beer at
- the "U".
-
- How do I subscibe to Psych-J....it seems that that venue might be more to
- my tastes. I made a serious "real world" posting regarding aviation
- safety, the use of automation, information processing and vigilance
- last week and have only gotten 2/3 responses...however football and
- bathroom behaviour seem to be the real hot topics here.
-
- Seems that the criticism I keep hearing of the Ivory Tower contributions to
- the "real world" has some basis....what do you think...maybe this will
- stimulate some "real world" discussion.
-
- Again...how do I get on to the journal based BBS?
-
-
- Thanks,
-
- Tom
-
- On Thu, 28 Jan 1993 TBN@UTXVM.bitnet wrote:
-
- > Matthew Simpson writes a long letter which is too long to repost
- > here...
- >
- > However, I take issue with one comment Matthew made about limiting
- > the contents of this discussion list to topics which are 'implicitly
- > relevant to graduate students in psychology'. Who decides exactly
- > what such topics are?
- >
- > For myself, I think the football discussion is an outstanding example
- > of how psychologists can take a real-world phenomenon like football
- > and render various interpretations of it--for example, see sf's
- > psychodynamic interpretation and my social learning approach to the
- > issue, as well as the 'football as rape' motif advanced by another
- > (sorry i cannot remember the author's name at present) poster.
- >
- > We could limit ourselves to discussing sanctioned topics mentioned
- > only in journal articles, but that's exactly what's wrong with
- > scientific psychology today, I contend--we need to talk more about
- > real world social phenomena, not less! Also, there's the separate issue
- > of the potential loss of our humanity by limiting our 'conversational
- > topics'. Is PSYCGRAD an electronic journal? Should we limit our
- > discussions to journal-like topics? I thought that's what PSYCGRD-J
- > was for--the more formal discussion of topics of interest to
- > psychologists whereas psycgrad is more informal.
- >
- > This doesn't mean that I approve of flames or posts that are made withou
- > careful intellectual thought. Maybe we need to work harder to define
- > appropriate and inappropriate post types. Matthew, perhaps exemplars
- > would be helpful, even if they are hypothetical.
- >
- > This is just my .02 worth on what i consider to be a pretty serious
- > issue (note: as always, this is most certainly *not* a flame; if it
- > is taken as one, I apologize in advance for not stating my thoughts
- > clearly enough).
- >
- > thanks,
- >
- > tor
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