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- From: Panagiotis Lolonis <lolonis@NEWS.WEEG.UIOWA.EDU>
- Subject: Re: To Makedoviko zntnma
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- IVRISSIMTZIS@VAX1.COMPUTER-CENTRE.BIRMINGHAM.AC.UK writes:
-
- >>Deixnoun omws ena polu spoudaio pragma:
- >> KAMMIA TOUS DEN ANAFEREI TOUS "MAKEDONES" SAN ANEXARTHTO E0NIKO GROUP!
-
- >Makedovesntav kai eivai oi katoikoi tns Makedovias, eite Slaboi, eite Ellnves,
- >eite Blaxoi, eite Albavoi, eite...
-
- To oti o oros "Makedonas" xrhsimopoieito stis arxes arxes tou aiwna na
- perigrapsei kai mh Ellhnikhs e0nikothtas laous einai alh0eia.
-
- Gia auto to logo h Ellhnikh pleura isxurizetai oti o oros exei gewgrafikh
- mono kai oxi ethnikh shmasia. Oi Skopianoi omws xrhsimopoioun ton oro gia
- na orisoun thn e0nikothta tous pou thn 0ewroun diaforetikh apo thn Ellhnikh
- kai edw einai pou xekinaei to provlhma. Ton xrhsimopoioun gia na onomasoun
- th glwssa tous pou einai entelws diaforetikh (se diaforetiko klado twn
- family trees) apo thn arxaia Makedonikh glwssa. Tetoiou eidous orismoi
- dhmiourgoun, to ligwtero, esfalmenes entypwseis, idiaitera se osous den
- xeroun istoria, kai 0a prepei na apofeugontai.
-
- > Dev exoyme to dikaiwma va arvn0oyme se
- >kavevav, poy toses gevies progovwv toy gia ekatovtades kai xiliades xrovia,
- >znsav, mox0nsav kai pe0avav s' aytn tn gn va ovomazetai Makedovas, epeidn
- >tyxaivei va mn milaei ellnvika.
-
- H gh gia thn opoia, toso melodramatika, les oti pe0anan klp. kata thn
- Tourkokratia den legotan "Makedonia" kai apo to 1913-1940 legotan Bardarska.
-
- An 0eloun na karpw0oun thn istoria kai paradosh pou susxetizetai me tous
- Makedones giati na mhn exoume thn apaithsh na kanoun auto pou ekanan oi
- arxaioi Makedones, dhl. na diathrhsoun, an oxi na diadosoun, thn Ellhnikh
- glwssa kai ton Ellhniko politismo?
-
- Ama den tous aresei h glwssa klp. tote na vroun enan allo oro pou einai pio
- antiproswpeutikos gia na mhn mperdeuomaste kai emeis oi upoloipoi.
-
- Ypagwgh se ena e0niko group shmainei kai eu0unh gia thn diathrhsh twn
- xarakthristikwn, opws h glwssa kai h 0rhskeia, pou orizoun auto to group.
-
- Kai auto einai pou den kanoun oi Skopianoi. 0eloun na karpw0oun thn
- istoria kai th doxa alla oxi na mpoun ston kopo na diathrhsoun mia glwssa
- pou den einai omoia me th dikh tous (kalpono0eies dhladh).
-
- >frasns. To IMRO, parolo poy eksefraze kyria tis epavastatikes dia0eseis twv
- >Slabikwv pln0ysmwv tns Makedovias, ntav arxika aytovomo apo tnv e0vikistikn
- >boylgarikn "Supreme Macedonian Committee" (SMC). Ayto faivetai, afevos apo tn
- >diaknryksn toy katastatikoy toy gia "plnrn politikn aytovomia tns Makedovias
- >kai toy bilaetioy tns Avdriavoypolns" [Boylgarika Istorika Arxeia; 1897], kai
-
- An elegan sta anoixta oti htan me tous Voulgarous, pws 0a epei0an tous
- Ellhnes kai tous upoloipous laous ths Makedonias na tous uposthrixoun?
-
- Den nomizw oti 0a htan toso afeleis na mhn kanoun auto pou akrivws ekanan.
-
- >afeteroy apo ta perifnma logia toy Delchev sto Nikolaev tns SMC: "We do not
- >need others deciding if we live or die or when...And now this, we do not seek
- >protectors" [The Politics of Terror, Perry]. Perissotera stoixeia gia tis
-
- O Delchev htan Boulgaros kai to eixe dhlwsei kai o idios. To parakatw
- quote ta leei ola:
-
- "Let us not allow splits and splintering to frighten us. It is, indeed, a
- pity, but what can we do, since we are Bulgarians and all suffer from one
- common disease"
- Gotse Delchev
-
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- >Kalo sabbatokyriako,
- >Lewvidas
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