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- Path: sparky!uunet!paladin.american.edu!auvm!psuvm!wvnvm!jeff
- Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 22:12:40 EST
- From: Jeff Brooks <JEFF@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
- Message-ID: <93018.221240JEFF@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
- Newsgroups: bit.listserv.catholic
- Subject: Re: The Real Presence
- References: <930118090730.2e00d6c1@ASTRO.CS.HH.AB.COM>
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- In article <930118090730.2e00d6c1@ASTRO.CS.HH.AB.COM>, URSIC@ASTRO.CS.HH.AB.COM
- says:
- >
- >My goodness, Gordon, how you love to extrapolate. What my statement "tends"
- >to do is leave supernatual and divine mysteries to God. Simply knowing that
- >Christ is present would seem to be the important concept to teach rather
- >than the absolute "how".
-
- In this instance I would certainly say that "absolute how" is unattainable --
- the Real Presence is a Mystery -- but some form of "how" or "what" is
- quite important to know. Like the question that named the manna, the
- important thing here is: "What are the things that before were bread and
- wine?" Are they only bread and wine? Do they contain bread and wine?
- Are they become the body of the Incarnate Word? Do they contain the
- body of the Incarnate Word?
-
- The answer is important here. Since at least the time of Saint Augustine --
- probably we have documentation back to the time of Saint Cyprian -- the
- latria or adoration given to God Himself has been paid to the sacred
- elements after the Consecration. If the Church has the wrong answer,
- she may well have been committing idolatry and teaching it for 1700 years.
- God raised up prophets again and again to warn Israel against idolatry.
- Has the Church done the same, and been left unwarned?
-
- Simply knowing that "Christ is present" is not enough; the modes in which
- He is present are also important. If you walk into the room, Christ is
- become present. Should I fall down in adoration? Definitely not,
- according to the teaching of Acts and Revelation. If consecrated bread
- and wine and brought into the room, what should I do? If it is not
- the true Body born of the Virgin Mary and I adore it, I commit idolatry.
- If it is, and I do not, I ignore the immediate presence of my Lord and
- my God under the sacramental veils. How can I dare decide not to ask?
- And how can the Church dare to leave me uninstructed in such a matter?
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- Jeff
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