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- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 11:18:42 CST
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- From: Dave <USTS060@RUST1.DPO.UAB.EDU>
- Subject: Re: More catagorization horror stories
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- I actually meant to send this to the whole net, but flurbed again
- and only sent it to Sonia. For the benefit (or perhaps bereavement)
- of the whole.
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- Sonia says:
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- > I have no inkling of how to define jazz; all I can think of is that the term
- > itself (I think) was an African-American old-time word for "doing
- >it" which is not very helpful here. But the roots of a term do
- >belong in the definition somehow.
- Actually jazz is a white term used to describe a form of African-
- American music that developed in the South during the early part of
- this century. (See, my rock 'n' Roll class is paying off.) The
- first "jazz" band ever recorded was a bunch of white guys from New
- Orleans called "The Original Dixieland Jass Band" (and no that's not
- a typo). They attempted to cover the black sound floating around New
- Orleans and other Southern towns. They failed miserablely. Seems
- they just couoldn't let go. They tried to attach to much structure
- to the music and in effect killed it.
- The second big jazz band to hit was the "Original New Orleans
- Rythm Kings" another all white band. They at least had the courtesy
- to admit in their liner notes what they were trying to imitate and
- that they weren't doing it very well. This early "jazz" actually
- sounded more like music to Charleston or Fox Trot to. Young rich
- kids and "flappers" (more rich kids) popularized this sound. Much in
- the same way that the kids of the early 50's would popularize Roock
- 'n' Roll.
- Black jazz didn't become "jazz": until World War I when blacks
- moved en mass up to the north, establishing Chicago, Harlem and some
- midwest towns as the centers of black productivity. The war created
- a shortage of white men. Blacks took the chance and filled many of
- the open positions (at least until the white guys came home). They
- filled spots in many area bands and therby increased their
- musicianship. Louis Armstrong and his "hot jazz" sound became
- popular. It was this sound that created the vocabulary for what was
- to make up jazz and our idea of what that is.
- The real tragedy is that the white audience required watered down
- versions of black music. They just couldn't handle the raw sounds
- that we think are so hot today. But isn't that always the way?
- Isn't rock 'n' roll just watered down blues mixed with a little
- gospel?
- Hope this has been helpfull.
- >
- > I really am interested in exactly "what" _Transmutation_ is 1) because I am
- so
- > completely enthralled with the music, and 2) because I am curious and want to
- > learn more about that music and trying to "define" it may be of some help.
- >
- > So....?
- >
- > Sonia (it's too early for this shit)
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- Wow. I'm really surprised at you, Sonia. Don't you see that
- you already know? What was you poem/review? That's what Praxis is.
- That's what in a way jazz is. Music should not be so easily pigeon
- holed. It should challenge and provoke us. You definition was
- beautiful and personally, all I need. Any more definition and you'll
- kill it. That's why I can't give a more thorough definition of jazz
- that it history. It's music and while the events and people that
- surrounded its inception give a hint to what mmade it, you can never
- really explain, exaclty what it is. Especially in the space of five
- or six lines.
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