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- From: fogarty@sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov (Tim Fogarty)
- Newsgroups: ba.politics,ca.politics,talk.politics.misc
- Subject: Re: But it is OK to coerce certain groups...
- Date: 23 Jan 1993 23:19:49 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan23.214737.19884@netcom.com>,
- phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes:
- |>
- |>AB-101 DESTROYS the civil rights of many people -- such as landlords and
- |>employers. AB-101 is a law thought of by people that are ALSO afraid of
- |>what other people may be doing.
- |>
- |>Many people find the thought of two males fucking disgusting.
- |>
- |>Other people find, say, a devout Christian NOT renting a room to a homosexual
- |>because "it's a sin in the Bible" also disgusting.
- |>
- |>Now, either BOTH cases are valid, or BOTH case are invalid.
- |>
- |>
- |>Please respond to the following:
- |>
- |>A: I'd like to have sex with you. A: I'd like to rent your room.
- |>B: No thanks, you're not what I want. B: No thanks, you're not what I want.
- |>A: Oh well, too bad. A: Discrimination!!!!
-
- Your A & B example is invalid because B on the left is an individual, while
- B on the right is a business. Now if B on the left was a prostitute, then
- maybe both examples would be discrimination.
-
-
- In California, it is against the law to deny housing based on marital status.
- If an unmarried couple wants to rent an apartment from a landlord, the
- landlord cannot choose to not rent to them for that reason, even if the
- landlord feels that it would be against his religion for an unmarried male
- and female to have sex with each other.
-
- If a religious landlord finds this unacceptable, then he can choose to get
- into another line of business.
-
- |>
- |>Remember, if (for example) YOU want to fuck whatever, then HE gets to rent to
- |>whatever.
-
- Again, in this example, "YOU" are an individual, while "HE" is a business.
-
- |>
- |>Every single thinsg that the Colorado law struck against ("to have or claim
- |>any minority status, quota preferences, protected status or claim of
- |>discrimination.") are names for special, coercive treatements -- things
- |>that require under coercive threat of law poepl to do things (hire, rent,
- |>treat) they otherwise wouldn't.
-
- The same things that were used in the 60s and 70s to begin to correct
- discrimination against non-whites, non-Prodestants, and women.
-
- |>These opinions are MINE, and you can't have 'em! (But I'll rent 'em cheap ...)
-
- The act of renting them makes you a business. If you were to rent to some,
- but not others, based on race, color, creed, sex, marital status, or sexual
- orientation, that would be discrimination.
-
- --
- Tim Fogarty (FOGARTY@SIR-C.JPL.NASA.GOV)
- Sys Man and Sys Admin for the EGSE in the POCC at JSC for SRL-1 and SRL-2
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