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- From: flar@bendenweyr.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Graham)
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- Subject: Re: Why Do We Have Separate Restrooms? (WAS Re: Gays, the military...)
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- Date: 22 Jan 93 20:45:40 GMT
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- cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
- |> flar@bendenweyr.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Graham) writes:
- |> > Perhaps because there is a signficant portion of our society that
- |> > would discriminate against homosexuals in employment and housing.
- |> > That portion may not be the majority, but it is enough to do
- |> > some serious damage. And even if the portion is small, the fear
- |> > of the possibility of discrimination complicates the lives of more
- |> > people than that small portion can directly influence.
- |>
- |> The fear of the *possibility*? That fear won't go away, whether
- |> the law exists or not. That fear will ALWAYS be present, because
- |> there will be people careful enough, and clever enough, to
- |> discriminate against homosexuals, without making it obvious. And
- |> what will you do then? Exactly what was done when the same problem
- |> appeared in government contractors in the 1960s -- quotas. How else
- |> can you solve that sort of problem?
-
- If you reread my posting I was not addressing the issue of whether or
- not anti-discrimination laws were a viable method for stopping arbitrary
- discrimination. I was addressing the issue of why homosexuals felt
- that they were in danger of discrimination. The question was (or
- I posted that I was interpreting it as) "If everyone is supposedly so
- comfortable with homosexuals (that the majority would not mind sharing
- restrooms with them), then why are you worried about discrimination?"
- I was simply showing that seeking to take action to end an injustice
- does not imply that the majority support or engage in that injustice.
- It simply implies that the injustice exists.
-
- |> > Also, I think it is important that even if the majority of
- |> > the population was afraid of having homosexuals present in
- |> > various compromising situations, I still don't respect their
- |> > viewpoint. I may acknowledge it if sufficient evidence is
- |> > presented, but in my mind they are just stewing in their own
- |> > ignorant fears.
- |>
- |> In short, if someone doesn't agree with you, force your morals
- |> on to them.
-
- Nothing in that paragraph advocates forcing morals on anyone else.
- I am simply stating my opinion that their viewpoint is not based
- in logic. Feel free to disagree if you wish.
-
- ...jim
-