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- From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
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- Subject: Re: San Francisco's first scooterjacking
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- Date: 28 Jan 93 15:58:17 GMT
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- emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Marsh) writes:
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- >In article <1993Jan27.193240.13525@hspice.portal.com> georgew@hspice.portal.com (George Wu) writes:
- >>In article <txd.727717667@Able.MKT.3Com.Com> txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
- >>>delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lisa DeLorme) writes:
-
- >>>>Today's Chron reports that the first scooterjacking (Honda Elite) occured
- >>>>yesterday in the Mission district.
-
- >>>In reality, I think that my first reaction in such a situation would be
- >>>to bring up the revs, and drop the clutch.
-
- >>> [ . . . ]
-
- >>>If you react quickly,
- >>>even if he actually does have a gun, he's going to have to get the gun
- >>>out of his pocket, and shoot. The chances that he can actually hit
- >>>something with a gun that he can hide in his pocket are slim.
-
- >> Actually, I think you're wrong here. It's generally believed the biker
- >>who died in Emeryville was shot as he tried to ride away from a hijacking
- >>attempt. (To summarize, some months ago a motorcyclist rode into an Emeryville
- >>gas station and promptly collapsed and died from a gunshot wound. The police
- >>believe he was shot in a robbery attempt, and managed to ride as far as the gas
- >>station. The crime was unsolved the last I heard.)
-
- >Once or twice in my life I've had the opportunity to look down the wrong
- >end of a gun. The conclusion I've come to is as follows:
-
- >--==** Don't argue with someone who's got the drop on you. **==--
-
- I have to say here that if I saw that the guy _really_ a gun and had
- the drop on me, I'd chose not to argue.
-
- >Give him the bike. However in my case, if I could I'd turn off the
- >fuel petcock. Since the CRs on my Ninja don't have vacum fittings
- >I don't use the automatic stuff. I figure that might give me a better
- >chance of getting my scooter back.
-
- >> As someone contemplating a new ultra-desirable bike, I've been trying to
- >>figure out a serious counter to hijackers. Personally, I've decided running
- >>is pretty risky. Arming myself is probably more so, even without the legal
- >>implications of using deadly force. (Draw and shoot while he's getting on the
- >>bike? Sure, but what'll the cops say?)
-
- >Insurance will buy you a new bike. Even if it doesn't, a new bike
- >is a small price to pay for your life/health.
-
- Yes, no bike is worth my life. But I'm going to have to be convinced
- that I'll lose my life before I give up to some slime bag.
-
- >However, if I were armed, the moment he turned his head I'd put one
- >(or more) through it. Then I'd have to make some decisions about
- >waiting for the cops. Odds are, I'd just leave him bleeding there,
- >possibly with a stipe of rubber over his worthless hide.
-
- If you really try this, go for the chest shot(s). The target's bigger,
- and it's just as deadly.
-
- >As a programmer, I would consider that to be the elegant solution.
-
- No, elegant would be my Rottweiler standing on the slime bag's chest,
- drooling in his face while I was able to call 911.
-
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