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- Newsgroups: aus.radio
- Subject: Re: USENET news on packet
- Message-ID: <1029323.12948.13948@kcbbs.gen.nz>
- From: Steve_Wright@kcbbs.gen.nz (Steve Wright)
- Date: 24 Jan 93 03:35:48 GMT
- Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand
- Lines: 49
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- terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson) writes:
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- >near guarantees it I believe) than do DOTC. I can't speak for the Japanese
- >situation, but I understand that they have the single largest per capita
- >utilisation of 9.6k+ modems anywhere in the world.
-
- Their 9k6 standard is V29 - the same as G3 FAX. The reason they use V29 is
- cause its **real** cheap. Thousands upon thousands of V29 chips exist in FAX
- machines worldwide, so they've used it for packet. The trouble is, the key-up
- delay is v e r y l o o n n n g g g g. Well over .5 sec I hear - which for
- burtsy packet is a no-no. They've opted to use existing mass produced
- technology rather than push the state-of-the-art.
-
- >
- >There was some discussion following a similar suggestion made in
- >rec.radio.amateur.packet some time ago, and the conclusions were similar
- >to those being reached here as I remember it. Mostly that is that we can
- >barely build a network to cope with the traffic that already exists, without
- >attempting to deliver non-amateur traffic as well.
-
- We don't need to feed the entire contents of USENET NEWS to *every* .ampr.org
- address, but feed major internet interest groups (sci.*.*,rec.radio.*,
- aus.radio.?,tcp-group@ucsd.edu and the rest) using NNTP, and if anyone wants
- more services such as Internet FTP/email/etc, then they should telnet a BBS
- that provides these features. This is being done in NZ now, and gets rid of
- most of the political problems. Also, some BBS with Internet access may make
- available a dial up SLIP line you can connect NOS directly to the internet.
-
- >
- >Consider the amount of traffic that the existing BBS networks handle (telepho
- >BBS'es here), consider the path between Sydney and Melbourne alone,
- >even using 56kbps modems, it would be a ludicrously expensive endeavour, and
- >would be very prone to failure (how much redundancy can you build into such
- >a system, and at what cost ?), and performance still wouldn't approach
- >that of two bbs'es forwarding between Sydney and Melbourne using PEP, or
- >V.32bis modems.
- >
- >Better to find a large company that has some unused bandwidth on their nation
- >pabx system and lobby them for the use of it, in exchange for some advertisin
- >or some such.
- yes, but it's not ham radio. I agree with you (we're looking at doing it in
- Kaitaia,) but we have at our disposal lots of real nice RF spectrum that is
- available free of charge. Sure we have to build/buy the gear to do it and in
- some situations it may cost many times more that a dial-up line, but we are
- **RADIO HAMS** and radio hams do it with RF (no elaborations on RF please!)
-
- Steve - ZL1BHD
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