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- From: aa593@Freenet.carleton.ca (Iain Pidcock)
- Subject: Re: Rap music
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.024546.9270@freenet.carleton.ca>
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- Reply-To: aa593@Freenet.carleton.ca (Iain Pidcock)
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- References: <kjm.126.0@buc.edu.au> <1993Jan25.041320.1303@freenet.carleton.ca>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:45:46 GMT
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- In a previous article, kjm@buc.edu.au (Kevin Moore) says:
-
- >Apology: This article contains a preponderance of American cultural icons.
- >My only excuse is that the object of discussion is of American origin.
- >
- >In article <1993Jan25.041320.1303@freenet.carleton.ca> aa593@Freenet.carleton.ca (Iain Pidcock) writes:
- >
- >>Oh oh. Misunderstood again. Please, no one is suggesting
- >>banning anything. I am the last person to suggest censorship
- >>and such like. I just thought that it would be useful if
- >>people stopped to think about what they are listening to.
- >
- >Pop would finally eat itself.
- >
- > [deletia]
- >
- > What do they really get
- >>from NWA talking about killing police?
- >
- >A vicarious thrill. Sort of like Bill Clinton wearing long hair, a beard and
- >love beads in the '60s. Kids grow up and learn to like Barry Manilow. Hell,
- >P.J O'Rourke ended up a Republican as soon as he had to pay tax! I worry
- >more about kids who listen to Billy Graham, Jerry Falwell and their ilk.
- >They don't grow out of it.
- >
- > They seem to
- >>enjoy the idea. It is a fact that rap music has
- >>been linked to the dissemination of gang values throughout
- >>society. I mean, listen to the content!
- >
- >But nobody does! Except a desperate few, destined for the fringes of
- >society, along with the middle aged punks, the white haired hippies who
- >still wear flares, the dotty old ladies collecting Elvis memorabilia, and
- >Jerry Falwell. For heaven's sake, there was a time when Louis Armstrong was
- >seen as a threat to society!
- >
- > Now lets
- >>not go thinking that I hold Ice Cube responsible for
- >>all the worlds ills, but I don't think that it is
- >>socially productive to condone violence. I guess it
- >>is really up to the listener to exercise good
- >>judgement, but I remind you, good judgement is not
- >>something adolescents are known for.
- >
- >Indeed not. But they do grow up. (Most of them) And when they grow up, they
- >will inwardly cringe whenever their parents drag out the photographs of them
- >in their expensive basketball shoes, wearing a baseball cap backwards.
- >Nobody likes being reminded of a time when they were a snot-nosed nerd who
- >took pop music seriously. Except, of course, for the odd few who will be
- >wearing the paraphernalia when they are sixty, to the intense embarrassment
- >of their grandchildren.
- >
- >The point is, Rap is a fad. Ignore it and it will go away. Any cultural
- >relevance it had when Grandmaster Flash and James Brown were doing it died
- >with mainstream popularity. Why? Because nobody will market anything which
- >seriously threatens their ability to make money. ( Critics who accuse Noam
- >Chomsky of conspiracy theories fail to address this point. A conspiracy is
- >not necessary for self-censorship. Pure self-interest is enough )
- >
- >23 skidoo
- >
- >Kevin.
- >
- >******************************************************************************
- >Little by little we subtract *
- >Faith and fallacy from fact, * Kevin Moore
- >The illusory from the true * kjm@buc.edu.au
- >And then starve upon the residue. Hoffenstein *
- >******************************************************************************
- >
-
- Kevin,
- Thanks for your insight. I am now going to retreat to
- the mountains of Chile to find myself. To think I was
- destined for the fringes of society. Thanks for pointing
- out my impending doom. To think I have lost my mind at
- 21 years of age. I have my studies of Psychology to thank
- for that. Take care and I hope that when I return, rap
- is gone as you had predicted it would. Boy o boy, what
- was I thinking.... :)
-
- --
- Iain Pidcock - Carleton University Student, Ottawa Canada
-
- For the future we look to the stars, they look back and laugh
- "What me Worry?"- Alfred E. Newman
-