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- From: kjm@buc.edu.au (Kevin Moore)
- Newsgroups: aus.music
- Subject: Re: Rap music
- Date: 25 Jan 1993 23:58:05 GMT
- Organization: Physics Department - Ballarat University College
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- Apology: This article contains a preponderance of American cultural icons.
- My only excuse is that the object of discussion is of American origin.
-
- In article <1993Jan25.041320.1303@freenet.carleton.ca> aa593@Freenet.carleton.ca (Iain Pidcock) writes:
-
- >Oh oh. Misunderstood again. Please, no one is suggesting
- >banning anything. I am the last person to suggest censorship
- >and such like. I just thought that it would be useful if
- >people stopped to think about what they are listening to.
-
- Pop would finally eat itself.
-
- [deletia]
-
- What do they really get
- >from NWA talking about killing police?
-
- A vicarious thrill. Sort of like Bill Clinton wearing long hair, a beard and
- love beads in the '60s. Kids grow up and learn to like Barry Manilow. Hell,
- P.J O'Rourke ended up a Republican as soon as he had to pay tax! I worry
- more about kids who listen to Billy Graham, Jerry Falwell and their ilk.
- They don't grow out of it.
-
- They seem to
- >enjoy the idea. It is a fact that rap music has
- >been linked to the dissemination of gang values throughout
- >society. I mean, listen to the content!
-
- But nobody does! Except a desperate few, destined for the fringes of
- society, along with the middle aged punks, the white haired hippies who
- still wear flares, the dotty old ladies collecting Elvis memorabilia, and
- Jerry Falwell. For heaven's sake, there was a time when Louis Armstrong was
- seen as a threat to society!
-
- Now lets
- >not go thinking that I hold Ice Cube responsible for
- >all the worlds ills, but I don't think that it is
- >socially productive to condone violence. I guess it
- >is really up to the listener to exercise good
- >judgement, but I remind you, good judgement is not
- >something adolescents are known for.
-
- Indeed not. But they do grow up. (Most of them) And when they grow up, they
- will inwardly cringe whenever their parents drag out the photographs of them
- in their expensive basketball shoes, wearing a baseball cap backwards.
- Nobody likes being reminded of a time when they were a snot-nosed nerd who
- took pop music seriously. Except, of course, for the odd few who will be
- wearing the paraphernalia when they are sixty, to the intense embarrassment
- of their grandchildren.
-
- The point is, Rap is a fad. Ignore it and it will go away. Any cultural
- relevance it had when Grandmaster Flash and James Brown were doing it died
- with mainstream popularity. Why? Because nobody will market anything which
- seriously threatens their ability to make money. ( Critics who accuse Noam
- Chomsky of conspiracy theories fail to address this point. A conspiracy is
- not necessary for self-censorship. Pure self-interest is enough )
-
- 23 skidoo
-
- Kevin.
-
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- Little by little we subtract *
- Faith and fallacy from fact, * Kevin Moore
- The illusory from the true * kjm@buc.edu.au
- And then starve upon the residue. Hoffenstein *
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