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- From: chabotaa@vax1.bham.ac.uk
- Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
- Subject: Re: Will vs. Shall
- Date: 28 Jan 93 18:06:43 GMT
- Organization: University of Birmingham
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- >
- > And very few English too. The sensible thing is to adopt the simple
- > Scots usage, which is probably the de facto US usage, and which even
- > the confused English are beginning to adopt:
- >
- > Use "will" throughout for simple futurity.
- >
- > Use "shall" throughout for command, obligation, determination,
- > or non-specific futurity.
- >
-
- From `The Complete Plain Words'/Sir Ernest Gowers:
-
- "But the idiom of the Celts is different [from the English].
- They have never recognised `I shall go'. For them `I will go'
- is the plain future. The story is a very old one of the drowning
- Scot who was misunderstood by English onlookers and left to his
- fate because he cried, `I will drown and nobody shall save me'."
-
-
- He then goes on to say
-
- "American practice follows the Celtic ..."
-
- I will not comment ...
-
- Tony Chabot
-