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From: [e-mail] (The_Doge)
Subject: Re: CHRISTIANS ARE BEING DUPED!
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[More mutation, this time from talk.abortion, of all places.  Enjoy.]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
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>
>     The "ECKANKAR" organization, referred to in the following article, is
>PRO-CHOICE on the abortion issue:
>
>
>                         CHRISTIANS ARE BEING DUPED!
>
>               Most Christians would agree, and correctly so, that
>          Jesus Christ was a perfect living Master, and a projection of
>          God into the physical world, God Incarnate.
>
>               But there are some very important related facts that
>          Christians are COMPLETELY IGNORANT of, as are followers of
>          most other world religions.
>
>               First, Jesus Christ was NOT unique, John 3:16 NOTWITH-
>          STANDING.  There is ALWAYS at least one such perfect living
>          Master (God Incarnate) PHYSICALLY ALIVE in this world AT ALL
>          TIMES, a continuous succession THROUGHOUT HISTORY, both
>          before and after the life of Jesus.
>
>               The followers of some of these Masters founded the
>          world's major religions, usually PERVERTING the teachings of
>          their Master in the process.  Christians, for example, added
>          THREATS of "ETERNAL DAMNATION" in Hell, and DELETED the
>          teaching of REincarnation.
>
>               Secondly, and more importantly, after a particular
>          Master physically dies and leaves this world, there is
>          NOTHING that He can do for ANYbody except for the relatively
>          few people that He INITIATED while He was still physically
>          alive.  (That is simply the way God set things up in the
>          Universes.)
>
>               Therefore, all those Christians who worship Jesus, and
>          pray to Jesus, and expect Jesus to return and save them from
>          their sins, are only KIDDING THEMSELVES, and have allowed
>          themselves to be DUPED by a religion that was mostly
>          MANUFACTURED by the Romans.
>
>               And emotional "feelings" are a TOTALLY DECEIVING
>          indicator for religious validity.
>
>               These things are similarly true for followers of most
>          other major world religions, including Islam.
>
>               Thirdly, the primary function of each Master is to tune
>          His Initiates into the "AUDIBLE LIFE STREAM" or "SOUND
>          CURRENT", (referred to as "THE WORD" in John 1:1-5, and as
>          "The River of Life" in Revelation 22:1), and to personally
>          guide each of them thru the upper levels of Heaven while they
>          are still connected to their living physical bodies by a
>          "silver cord".
>
>               True Salvation, which completes a Soul's cycles of
>          REincarnation in the physical and psychic planes, is achieved
>          only by reaching at least the "SOUL PLANE", which is five
>          levels or universes above the physical universe, and this
>          canNOT be done without the help of a Perfect LIVING Master.
>
>               One such perfect Master alive today is an American, Sri
>          Harold Klemp, the Living "Eck" Master or "Mahanta" for the
>          "Eckankar" organization, now headquartered in Minneapolis,
>          (P.O. Box 27300;  zip 55427).
>
>               Another perfect living Master is Maharaj Gurinder Singh
>          Ji, now living in Punjab, India, and is associated with the
>          "Sant Mat" organization.
>
>               One of the classic books on this subject is "THE PATH OF
>          THE MASTERS" (Radha Soami Books, P.O. Box 242, Gardena, CA
>          90247), written in 1939 by Dr. Julian Johnson, a theologian
>          and surgeon who spent the last years of his life in India
>          studying under and closely observing the Sant Mat Master of
>          that time, Maharaj Sawan Singh Ji.
>
>               Several of the Eckankar books, including some authored
>          by Sri Paul Twitchell or Sri Harold Klemp, can be found in
>          most public and university libraries and some book stores, or
>          obtained thru inter-library loan.  The book "ECKANKAR--THE
>          KEY TO SECRET WORLDS", by Sri Paul Twitchell, is ANOTHER
>          classic.
>
>               Many Christians are likely to confuse the Masters with
>          the "Anti-Christ", which is or was to be a temporary world
>          dictator during the so-called "last days".  But the Masters
>          don't ever rule, even when asked or expected to do so as
>          Jesus was.
>
>               People who continue following Christianity, Islam, or
>          other orthodox religions with a physically DEAD Master, will
>          CONTINUE on their cycles of REincarnation, between the
>          psychic planes and this MISERABLE physical world, until they
>          finally WISE UP!
>
>
>
>          RE-INCARNATION
>
>               The book "HERE AND HEREAFTER", by Ruth Montgomery,
>          describes several kinds of evidence supporting REincarnation
>          as a FACT OF LIFE, including HYPNOTIC REGRESSIONS to past
>          lives, SPONTANEOUS RECALL (especially by young children, some
>          of whom can identify their most recent previous relatives,
>          homes, possessions, etc.), DREAM RECALL of past life experi-
>          ences, DEJA VU (familiarity with a far off land while travel-
>          ing there for the first time on vacation), the psychic read-
>          ings of the late EDGAR CAYCE, and EVEN SUPPORTING STATEMENTS
>          FROM THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE including Matthew 17:11-13 (John the
>          Baptist was the REINCARNATION of Elias.) and John 9:1-2 (How
>          can a person POSSIBLY sin before he is born, unless he LIVED
>          BEFORE?!).  [ ALWAYS use the "KING JAMES VERSION".  Later
>          versions are PER-VERSIONS! ]  Strong INTERESTS, innate
>          TALENTS, strong PHOBIAS, etc., typically originate from a
>          person's PAST LIVES.  For example, a strong fear of swimming
>          in or traveling over water usually results from having
>          DROWNED at the end of a PREVIOUS LIFE.  And sometimes a
>          person will take AN IMMEDIATE DISLIKE to another person being
>          met for the first time, because of a bad encounter with him
>          during a PREVIOUS INCARNATION.
>
>               The teaching of REincarnation also includes the LAW OF
>          KARMA (Galatians 6:7, Revelation 13:10, etc.).  People would
>          behave much better toward each other if they knew that their
>          actions in the present will surely be reaped by them in the
>          future, or in a FUTURE INCARNATION!
>
>
>
>          "2nd COMINGS"
>
>               If a Perfect Living Master physically dies ("trans-
>          lates") before a particular Initiate of His does, then when
>          that Initiate physically dies ("translates"), the Master will
>          meet him on the Astral level and take him directly to the
>          Soul Plane.  This is the ONE AND ONLY correct meaning of a
>          2nd Coming.  It is an INDIVIDUAL experience, NOT something
>          that happens for everyone all at once.  People who are still
>          waiting for Jesus' "2nd Coming" are WAITING IN VAIN.
>
>
>
>          PLANES OF EXISTENCE
>
>               The physical universe is the LOWEST of AT LEAST a DOZEN
>          major levels of existence.  Above the Physical Plane is the
>          Astral Plane, the Causal Plane, the Mental Plane, the Etheric
>          Plane (often counted as the upper part of the Mental Plane),
>          the Soul Plane, and several higher Spiritual Planes.  The
>          Soul Plane is the FIRST TRUE HEAVEN, (counting upward from
>          the Physical).  The planes between (but NOT including) the
>          Physical and Soul Planes are called the Psychic Planes.
>
>               It is likely that ESP, telepathy, astrological
>          influences, radionic effects, biological transmutations [See
>          the 1972 book with that title.], and other phenomena without
>          an apparent physical origin, result from INTERACTIONS between
>          the Psychic Planes and the Physical Plane.
>
>               The major planes are also SUB-DIVIDED.  For example, a
>          sub-plane of the Astral Plane is called "Hades", and the
>          Christian Hell occupies a SMALL part of it, created there
>          LESS THAN 2000 YEARS AGO by the EARLY CATHOLIC CHURCH by some
>          kind of black magic or by simply teaching its existence in a
>          THREATENING manner.  The Christian "Heaven" is located
>          elsewhere on the Astral Plane.  Good Christians will go there
>          for a short while and then REincarnate back to Earth.
>
>
>
>          SOUND CURRENT vs. BLIND FAITH
>
>               The Christian religion demands of its followers an
>          extraordinary amount of BLIND FAITH backed up by little more
>          than GOOD FEELING (which is TOTALLY DECEIVING).
>
>               If a person is not HEARING some form of the "SOUND
>          CURRENT" ("THE WORD", "THE BANI", "THE AUDIBLE LIFE STREAM"),
>          then his cycles of REINCARNATION in this MISERABLE world WILL
>          CONTINUE.
>
>               The "SOUND CURRENT" manifests differently for different
>          Initiates, and can sound like a rushing wind, ocean waves on
>          the sea shore, buzzing bees, higher-pitched buzzing sound, a
>          flute, various heavenly music, or other sounds.  In Eckankar,
>          Members start hearing it near the end of their first year as
>          a Member.  This and other experiences (such as "SOUL TRAVEL")
>          REPLACE blind faith.
>
>
>
>               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this
>          IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED.
>
>
>                                           Robert E. McElwaine
>                                           2nd Initiate in Eckankar
>
>
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