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- From: paul@mtnmath.UUCP (Paul Budnik)
- Newsgroups: alt.sci.physics.new-theories
- Subject: Re: What does quantum have to do with it?
- Message-ID: <516@mtnmath.UUCP>
- Date: 24 Jan 93 02:34:09 GMT
- References: <dt4.726800296@fig> <martel.727363186@marvin> <23JAN199316255366@csa2.lbl.gov>
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- In article <23JAN199316255366@csa2.lbl.gov>, sichase@csa2.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE) writes:
- > But QM makes the unambiguous assumption that all such physical
- > processes are stochastic, by which I mean that you can never, even
- > in principle, predict more than the average particle life-time, never
- > the time of decay. Given the strong experimental position of QM,
- > I think that it is fair to take this as strong evidence that such
- > processes are truly random, and that there is no as yet undiscovered
- > microscopic theory which will predict individual decay times.
-
- The problem with this argument is that is hard to find what you are not
- looking for. One cannot prove a negative and it is impossible to rule out
- the possibility of a more complete model or even to define what you
- would mean by experimental evidence to support such a claim.
-
- The area where QM makes dubious predictions and where one is likely to
- find evidence against the completeness of QM is in tests of Bell's inequality.
- I think QM is a provably incomplete theory because it does not make
- clear predictions about what the delays are. There is a an extended
- discussion of this in `sci.physics' and I am attempting to publish a
- paper that proves this.
-
- Physicists have a pretty poor record in this area. Consider the following:
-
- 1. It took 30 years before Bell finally pointed out the error in von
- Neuman's `proof' that no more complete theory is possible.
-
- 2. Most physicists misinterpret Bell's theorem. Eberhard has derived this
- theorem without using any reference to hidden variables theory. Bell/Eberhard
- have proved that QM is not a local theory. They proved that changing a
- local experimental parameter can instantaneously influence what happens
- at arbitrarily large distances. I think this prediction of QM will
- prove to be false.
-
- 3. Aspect's experiment was and is widely heralded as reasonably conclusive
- proof that Bell's inequality is violated. This is true even though
- Aspect made a gross error in how he analyzed the timing.
- He based timing on the time it would take a classical particle
- to traverse a polarizer and be detected. See J. D. Franson, Physical
- Review D, pgs. 2529-2532, Vol. 31, No. 10, May 1985. It is a pretty safe
- bet that if such an error occurred in a paper that was in conflict with
- the predictions of QM it would have never made it past the referees.
-
- It could be argued that physicists have been working hard to avoid discovering
- that QM is an incomplete theory.
-
- Paul Budnik
-