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- From: oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil)
- Subject: Re: Polyamory again (was Re: last night...)
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- Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
- References: <1993Jan25.183931.20896@netcom.com> <1993Jan26.050230.6087@midway.uchicago.edu>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:08:32 GMT
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- tuff@ellis.uchicago.edu (Geoff Tuffli) writes:
-
- >In article noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
- >>
- >>Our relationship has gotten closer because of it since ours is not built on
- >>some stupid idea of possession and exclusive ownership, but one on giving.
- >>I can't be all things to her, and she can't be all things to me. I choose to
- >>love her unconditionally - that is the best form of love, imho. I will never
- >>put the requirement of monogamy on my romantic partners - trying to restrict
- >>another person on the matters of love is *not true love*. It can never deep
- >>down lead to any kind of trust - it is an inherently untrustworthy act to
- >>demand monogamy - do you want to build a close relationship on such a
- >>foundation?
-
- > Monogamy is not, I feel, a matter of possessing your partner, nor
- >is is a matter of trust even, as you correctly, I think, pointed out, trust
- >should not require that you be looking over one's partner's shoulder --
- >such is hardly what can be construed as trust.
-
- Indeed. To me, monogamy requires trust. If there is no trust, there is
- no relationship since the suspicion will tear away at the foundation of the
- love.
-
- > To me, at least, I prefer monogamy, demand it in any long-term
- >relationship I might undertake or have undertaken, simply because it is a
- >matter of rapport, or, to put it another way, complete and utter focus
- >in that aspect of one's life. One can certainly love any number of people;
- >as it has been stated, the more people you love, the more you CAN love,
- >but rapport or focus is by definition a thing that can be done with only
- >one person at a time. This is not love, per se, though it generally requires
- >love; it is not "becoming" the other person, it is matching the other
- >person.
-
- It is for this reason that I also prefer monogamy in a *long term*
- relationship. (I do enjoy dating a number of people when I am not
- involved in a long term relationship.) When I am in a long term
- relationship, I think I would find it very difficult to change my focus
- from one person to another. Perhaps it would be easy for another person.
- But it would not be for me.
-
- > People need and want and desire different things in my experience
- >(think Myer-Briggs as a good example of this, for those who know of it),
- >and what I described above is what *I* want and desire. For others, it is
- >irrelevant, and love alone is perfectly satsfactory. For some, even that is
- >not desired on any deep level. Matter of taste, matter of personality. The
- >upshoot is, tho' polyamory is perfectly fine, moral, what-have-you, I feel
- >it is unfair to label monogomy in the terms you have.
-
- Polyamory is fine, if a person is mature enough to handle it. If you
- can't deal honestly with the feelings of those with whom you are involved,
- you don't have any business indulging in it. When you're dealing with
- being involved with more than one person, feelings can get very complicated
- indeed and I think it's a lot easier for someone to get very hurt. Folks,
- do what you want, but make sure that you treat your partners with dignity
- and respect.
-
- Sharon
- oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu
-
- --
- Sharon L. O'Neil
- oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu
-
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