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- From: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
- Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
- Subject: Re: Good vs. Bad Mellower Music
- Date: 28 Jan 1993 17:37:23 GMT
- Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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- In article <1993Jan28.024728.8867@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, bui@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (BUI/DON/MR) writes:
- >In article <009673DC.643B36C0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
- >
- >>Maybe I was a little hard on VH; they're definitely talented, which puts
- >>them beyond the Skid Row, Slaughter, etc. types. I still don't see anything
- >>really gripping after VH I, though; if you think about it, that seemed like
- >>a semi-angry album (Runnin' With the Devil, Atomic Punk), but then they turned
- >>into a party-music band; party-music is simply not emotionally rivetting,
- >>and I guess this is why I labeled them pop-metal crap. Maybe they're sort
- >>of hard rock's answer to the beach Boys or something. . . but this means they
- >>changed their approach from emotional to light-heated, which I think is an
- >>artistic
- >>compromise, even if they're skill as such has improved. Eric M.
- >
- >
- >You obvoiusly know nothing about Van Halen. VH I, semi-angry? Those songs
- >you mentioned did not seem even remotely "angry" to me at all. What about
- >"Ice-Cream Man", "You Really Got Me", "Feel Your Love Tonight", "I'm The One"
- >etc., etc..... That was the ultimate party record. They got fairly "dark"
- >according to their standards on "Fair Warning" (their 4th), so they definitely
- >did not go "from emotional to light-heated".
- >
- >What do you know of their "artistic compromises"? It seems to me they
- >made the records they felt like making, and were damn good at it.
- >
- >To you: angry = emotional = good
- > fun = light-heated = bad
- >
- >There are times when I feel like listening to something really heavy and
- >angry like old Metallica or Pantera, and there are other times when I'll
- >throw on some VH and kick back and relax.
- >
- >You're missing out on some good bands cuz they're not "serious" or
- >"artistic" enough for you, but that's you're prerogative.
- >
- >
- > -Don
- >
- >
- I am aware that VH I contained many party-type songs (although they are
- musically pretty aggressive, except for Ice cream Man), but I guess
- my appreciation for that record was based more on the angrer-type thing
- on two or three of the songs. If you read my original post on good mellow
- music, however, I think you'll find that I do like bands that are not
- angry (KIng's X, Masters of Reality, etc.); however, they probably
- could be called "artsy" and, in the case of King's X, "serious."
- I do tend to focus on lyrics more than most, although there are
- exceptions; I like Zep quite a bit, but if you read their lyrics
- as poetry, they would genrally be ridiculous. Also, I don't mind
- people who like to listen to light-hearterd music when the mood is
- right, as long as they are capable of switching gears and appreciating
- more serious stuff (I do this by listening to old ZZ top, for instance,
- instead of old Black Sabbath).
- As an interesting side-note, I saw Hentry Rollins this summer
- (now that's angry music), and he did a cover of runnin' With the Devil,
- which he acknowledged people might criticize him for but he did it because
- he liked it. Eric M.
-