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- From: cmk@athena.mit.edu (Charles M Kozierok)
- Newsgroups: alt.politics.libertarian
- Subject: Re: child labor and minimum wage.
- Date: 28 Jan 1993 23:36:24 GMT
- Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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- In article <1k7691INN5cn@armory.centerline.com> mrh@centerline.com (Mike Huben) writes:
- >
- >Government NEVER forced anyone to be a slaveowner.
- >Slave owners denied slaves their rights.
- >Owners could and did free their slaves if they wanted to.
- >The US government never created a slave out of anybody.
- >The US government never took a pro-slavery position stronger than "if they
- >are property, laws concerning property apply."
- >If an owner freed a slave, he was a citizen and nobody could re-enslave him
- >or his descendants.
-
- you just don't get it, do you.
- the government's responsibility is to protect rights. in not doing so,
- it condoned slavery. it didn't have to snap the whip itself.
- is that so bloody difficult for you to understand?
-
- if so, how about these:
- isn't it the role of the government to *stop* those who deny others their
- rights? what kind of government allows one man to define another as
- "property"?
-
- >Very simply, the government was hands-off on the issue of slavery. Any
- >government involvement was limited to issues of property. Any denial of
- >rights was done by capitalist owners: the US simply didn't affirm the rights.
-
- this really *is* idiotic. the government doesn't have the right to
- *be* hands-off. it is their *responsibility* to make sure that no-one
- violates the rights of others. and allowing one to be defined as property
- *is* denial of rights.
-
- based on your logic, if some small town somewhere decided to
- violate the rights of some minority group, the government could
- arbitrarily decide to be "hands off" on the issue, and based on that
- decision, you would blame the offenders exclusively. the list
- of counter-examples is endless.
-
- you really believe this crap?
-
- incredible.
-
- -=-
- charles
-