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- From: bu008@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brandon D. Ray)
- Newsgroups: alt.politics.libertarian
- Subject: Re: Objections to the Pledge? (was: NatCom Endorses Facelift...)
- Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:36:19 GMT
- Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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- Reply-To: bu008@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brandon D. Ray)
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-
- In a previous article, starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Tim Starr) says:
-
- >In article <1993Jan25.092833.6867@cbnewse.cb.att.com> doctor1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (patrick.b.hailey) writes:
- >}In article <1993Jan25.073616.29180@genie.slhs.udel.edu> starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Tim Starr) writes:
- >}>Merely because people are inperfectly faithful to a principle is no reason
- >}>to abandon it.
- >}
- >}Ah! So minarchists are not welcome in Tim's LP?
- >
- >Inaccurate. They may join, but may not support coercion for the term of
- >their membership. If you want to support liberty, welcome. If you want
- >to support tyranny, the incumbent parties are the experts.
- >
- You are splitting hairs. By maintaining the oath, and by requiring strict
- construction of the oath, you will exclude a great many minarchists...
- including people like me, who score 100/90 on the WSPQ..the 10 points
- being deducted because I can't swallow the idea that gov't can be funded
- completely by voluntary contributions.
-
- And, I'm sorry, but I can't accept a loaded term like "tyranny" to describe
- my position. That's a low blow.
- >
- >}I have a lot of respect for you, Tim. I've learned a lot from you. It's
- >}the 'radical' types like you in any movement that gets things done. I'd
- >}like to have you and a few more like you influencing congress. I'd vote
- >}for you because, in *general*, I agree with your view of how things ought to
- >}be more than I disagree.
- >
- >Thank you.
- >
- >}But you don't want my vote because I don't agree with you 100%? Sorry, I
- >}think it's *you* who needs to go create a new political party. I agree
- >}with having an LP that welcomes anyone who fits in the libertarian
- >}quadrant. By definition, you would be welcome. 'Course, sounds like
- >}you wouldn't want to be there.
- >
- >Votes, yes. Money, yes. Help, yes. If you support coercion, though, I
- >don't want you to be an LP member.
- >
- So you want me to give you money, to give you my physical labor and skills,
- to vote for your candidates...but you want to deny me any voice in choosing
- those candidates, writing the platform they will run on or managing the
- party structure.
-
- Right.
- >
- >Tim Starr - Renaissance Now! - Think Universally, Act Selfishly
- >starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu
- >
- >"True greatness consists in the use of a powerful understanding to enlighten
- >oneself and others." - Francois Marie Arouet Voltaire
- >
-
- --
- ******************************************************************************
- The opinions expressed by the author are insightful, intelligent and very
- carefully thought out. It is therefore unlikely that they are shared by the
- University of Iowa or Case Western Reserve University.
-