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- From: cjk@netcom.com
- Subject: Re: information please
- Message-ID: <1993Jan28.063656.13201@netcom.com>
- Summary: Ha Ha Ha.
- Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
- References: <1jftq5INNbcv@titan.ucs.umass.edu> <1993Jan27.050947.23873@nwnexus.WA.COM>
- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:36:56 GMT
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- >In article <1993Jan19.020721.21041@netcom.com> cjk@netcom.com writes:
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- >>am looking for any credible reports or studies on physical characteristics of
- >>homosexuals. By credible I mean that the people doing them have used
- >>generally acceptable scientific methods.
-
- [Elf]
- It's rather obvious what d... I mean, cjk is trying to do. He's
- desperately trying to find a way of demonstrating that homosexuality is
- a "voluntary" designation because homosexuals, like religious people,
- are indistinguishable from the "general population."
-
- [Chris]
- Actualy I was just looking for materials to enrich my knowledge. If
- it would happend to fit in with my opinions, so much the better. If not,
- then I look at it, try to understand were I went wrong, and adjust my
- opinions accordingly. As it so happens I was involved in another debate
- in another forum and the topic came up naturally. I wasn't specificaly
- looking for Levay's work, but thats all anybody cared to come up with.
-
- Do you have any others?
-
- [Elf]
- His rationale is an amusing piece of tortured logic, but I see no
- reason to continue arguing with him on this point; I think both the
- religious folks and the pro-liberty folks arguing the points here on
- alt.politics.homosexuality would find an equation of homosexuality with
- religion offensive and, to be labor a point, pointless.
-
- [Chris]
- It has more merit then you are willing to admit.
-
- As for being pointless, already they are both being compared publicly
- and in the same breathe.
-
- I cite Eric Schmitt's article, slanting towards lifting the ban of
- homosexuals from the military. From the New York Times News Service
- titled "Dissenting views partly practical, partly emotional" as appeared
- in the San Diego Union Tribune Wednesday 1/27/93.
-
- "...That gay service members are forced to resign when
- discovered, while no one would force those with RELIGIOUS
- scruples to resign..."
-
- And also Junda Woo, Staff reporter of the Wall Street Journal, writes
- a neutral article on lifting the ban of homosexuals from the military.
- "Will courts uphold Military ban on Gays?" as appeared in the Wall
- Street Journel 1/26/93.
-
- "...Even outside the military context, gays as a group
- typically haven't been afforded special protection under
- the equal-protection clause, unlike for example, racial or
- RELIGIOUS groups..."
-
- Quoted entirely in context, emphasis mine.
-
- And just a point of clarification here--Are you implying that
- "religious folks" and "pro-liberty folks" are mutualy exclusive?
-
- [Elf]
- The aim of this painful segue is to get a mention of homosexuality
- out of public schooling. But, this particular argument is already
- doomed to failure and I see no point in discussing it with d... I mean,
- cjk again.
-
- [Chris]
- No, this was not a segue into any subject. But now you compel me
- to respond to your post that references our original debate.
- Maybe this is your segue back into the debate to present further
- evidence for your point of view.
-
- If you wish to see my segue it is in "Read this if you are straight",
- under "Read this if you are homosexual".
-
- And the point of the original debate was not "to get a mention of
- homosexuality out of public schooling", which may be one of my goals.
- The point was to present an alternative viewpoint, and through debate,
- enrich others, but more importantly, enrich myself. I'm not out here
- to draw blood, confuse people, or engage in *PC* "double-talk", or
- simply excercise my fingers. I have a legitimate concern with the
- issues involved.
- .
- Finaly, Mr. Sternberg, I have suspicions. Unfounded as they may be. But
- I will ask you point blank. Are you participating in this specific news
- group under multiple identities?
-
- Chris Kevlahan
- cjk@netcom.com
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