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- From: Dale McMillen <dmcmillen@igc.apc.org>
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- Date: 27 Jan 93 22:17 PST
- Subject: Re: THE MONEY SUPPLY AND CURRENCIES
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- Micheal Spencer,
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- I don't know why you continuously want to peg me as a socialist.
- I know I have said that I find myself leaning to some form of
- decentralized democratic socialism, but this is a far cry from
- the type of socialism you seem to want to label me with.
-
- The challenge, and the place that needs continuous work, is finding
- ways to keep this system or any system "decentralized" and "democratic".
-
- All of the "thugs" you keep bringing up -- Hitler, Mussolini, Mao,
- or Huey Long -- have had serious troubles with these two concepts.
- Any political organization or philosophy has similar troubles. Just
- look at your local city council, state legislators and congressmen, or
- look at your friends in your local Democrat, Republican, Libertarian,
- or Green Parties and you will find some who wish to dismiss these
- fundamental principles of political fairness for either expediency or
- devotion to some "higher goal".
-
- It is failure to hold on to decentralization and democracy which breeds
- power and corruption. Ultimately, it is important to keep priorities
- straight, and remember that while the principle of democracy and
- decentralization may seem messy and slow in the real world, the most
- important thing is to value all people and their views. It is not just
- whether we get from here to there, but how we proceed. It is the
- process that counts.
-
- If we want a world where all people are treated fairly and nature
- is treated with the same respect we give our mothers, then we must
- begin treating people fairly and respecting nature. Even if we don't
- acheive certain successes like lobbying legislators for fairer
- taxation, or stopping toxic dumps, or getting our people elected we
- will have succeeded if we have treated people fairly and respected
- nature in the process. The ends do not justify the means, but
- they are inseparable. There is no way to peace, peace is the way.
-
- The most important thing you can remember about The Greens is
- our commitment to grassroots democracy and decentralization.
- Our commitment to these principles is the way we commit ourselves
- to the common person. We believe if you treat people fairly
- they will be able to empower themselves and their communities
- to take care of the things that matter to them: food, shelter,
- clothing, clean air and water, interpersonal relationships,
- and spiritual connections to God and nature.
-
- Our commitment to socialism, capitalism, the free market, or
- anything in between is clearly subordinate to the principles
- of decentralization and grassroots democracy.
-
- While it may be possible for a Hitler or a Mao to co-opt the
- Green message and claim the allegiance of Green Party members,
- I would nearly guarantee that it would be more difficult for
- this potential dictator to co-opt Greens than any other political
- party you could name, including the Libertarians.
-
- Look at the fascination the Democrats have with their "messiah"
- Clinton. Look at the way Libertarians were suckered by Ronald
- Reagan, who did more to consolodate power and deprive people
- of their civil rights than anyone else in my lifetime. And, well,
- the Republicans since they seem thrive on top-down patriarchal
- structures which are antithetical to decentralism and grass-roots
- democracy.
-
- Dale
-
- PS I agree with you when you said "I prefer reformation to
- transformation." Or, to state it another way: "evolution
- versus revolution." I recently read where a long-time activist
- who has been working on racism say "We need both urgency and
- patience. We need urgency because we can never let ourselves
- become complacent while the status quo remains unjust. But,
- we also need patience because we need to realize the depth our
- problems go to the very heart of our institutions and our attitudes
- about each other. We need to realize that we participate in the
- same racist institutions and attitudes as those we are fighting,
- and it is only when both friend and foe have learned to discard
- the sins of the past that we can ever be free."
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