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- From: bil@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Bill Conner)
- Subject: Deliberate Ignorance
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- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:19:25 GMT
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- I've noticed that most of the postings here have to do with logic,
- as if logic were the final arbiter of Truth. I don't hold to the
- belief that everything can be fully understood through the application
- of logic and find it a little odd that Objectivists apparently reject
- every other means of apprehending reality. Logic is an intellectual
- tool like mathematics, it is really the study of relationships, how
- one thing or category of things relates to another.
-
- Like mathematics, logic can deal with abstractions, thoughts that
- have no object in the "real" world, and like mathematics, can be used
- to describe things with no actual existence. The resort to logic by
- those calling themselves, Objectivists, gives the impression that
- logic can solve problems, and this just ain't so. Logic can describe
- how one thing (thought, etc.) compares to another, but it of no use in
- determining which thing or thought or idea is "true".
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- This deification of logic is revealing though; it does show
- how little those who use it understand the nature of nature, and
- especially human nauture. Like those orgaminc effusions of enthusiasm
- for "Science" so typical of the last century, Objectivists seem to
- have confused the advances of engineering with the advancement of
- Science, as if they were the same thing.
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- Technology is almost entirely the result of engineering, not
- Science. Our material well being is based on that technology; we are
- indebted to the engineers and technicians for our prosperity.
- Technology however, is morally neutral; it is neither good nor bad,
- it's just engineering.
-
- Science on the other hand, is concerned with questions that don't
- necessarily have any direct, technical application. Science was
- originally called, Natural Philosophy, which meant that its primary
- concern was the attempt to -understand- nature, not control it. By
- studying nature these philosophers hoped to attain insight into the
- essence of the universe; if that insight led to something useful was
- not the point.
-
- Dilettantes, then and and now get confused about the real purpose
- of Science, unable to distinguish between it and the products of
- engineering. Science is by is very nature, concerned with issues that
- have always been the province of philosopher, moralists and ethicists.
- Since enigineering is by its nature the outcome of the application
- deterministic logic (math), the two depend on different attributes of
- human intelligence.
-
- An Objectivist identifies with the Engineer, and can therefore have
- nothing whatever to offer to those concerned with questions of worth, truth,
- right or wrong or any other philosophical issue. If the logic of the
- Objectivist is correct and if the conclusions drawn from their logic
- are valid (very unlikely), then we are mere biological machines and
- all of our needs, desires, and ambitions can be attributed entirely to
- physiological causes.
-
- What is especially stupid about this kind of view point (no, theirs
- is not an original concept), it that each one of us KNOWS that we are
- more than a machine. We know it intuitively, we know it so
- fundamentally that if it weren't for the indoctrination of the last
- hundred years or so, we'd think this kind of mechanisitic nonsense was
- the outbursts of morons. Objectivist thinking is the direct result of.
- whole generation eating too many Happy Meals at MacDonalds.
-
- In all fairness though, we can probably let these people design
- Wal-Mart Stores, Banks maybe even bridges, but we can't let them
- design a human society, not until they grow up enough to understand
- what it is. It is an unfortunate quirk in human nature however, that
- makes it unlikely that our Objectivist brethren will ever be trusted
- with our governence; how can they admit they've been wrong after
- investing so much of themselves in their folly - and on the Internet
- at that !?
-
- Ok, Fire Away ...
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- Bill Conner
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