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- From: gambit@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu ()
- Subject: Re: God doesn't exist
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- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:22:19 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan25.101937.18534@netcom.com> abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell) writes:
- >gambit@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu () writes:
- >>ked@2001.bgsu.edu (Burly) writes:
- >>>Thomas Aquinas, a most influential Roman Catholic theologian and
- >>>philosopher came up with the First Cause Argument also known as the
- >>>Cosmological Argument. In it he stated several arguments that he believed
- >>>make it clear that God does exist. Let's study his argument for a minute:
- >>> 1. Everything that exists had a cause of its coming into existence
- >>> 2. Nothing can be the cause of itself
- >>> 3. There cannot be an infinite series of causal chains
- >>> 4. Therefore, there must be a first cause
- >>> 5. The First Cause must be God
- >>>-----------------------]
- >>> 6. Therefore, God exists.
- >
- >>Actually, Aquinas is correct on his first four counts.
- >
- >No, he wasn't. The first three are flagrantly contradictory:
- >
- >Assume God exists. I know, it's hard, but try.
- >By (1), God had a cause for coming into existence.
- >By (2), this cause was something other than God.
- >By (3), this causal chain must stop somewhere.
- >
- > [etc.]
-
- You're absolutely correct, of course. (I'm embarassed that I overlooked this
- on a world-wide forum!) The Law of Causality states that every effect has a
- cause, not that every _entity_ has a cause. Please disregard what I wrote
- earlier on the subject of Aquinas' proof. :)
-
- The fact that every entity does not require a cause is obvious, because the
- Universe (if we take it to be the totality of existence) obviously did not
- have a cause. There could be nothing to cause existence, because it would
- have to exist itself.
-
- (I must admit that I have never read Aquinas; I have only seen his "proof"
- as presented by others, or in philosophy texts. When I get a chance, I
- should definitely look it up.)
-
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- Benjamin W. Lagow
- Grad Res Asst, Dept. of Materials Science and Engineering
- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
-