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- From: 5g72wheelerj@vms.csd.mu.edu (John C. Wheeler)
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- Subject: Re: god exists, 2nd part
- Date: 22 Jan 1993 08:29:49 GMT
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- (continued from previous posting) much of the Jewish Orthadoxy, agree
- that the book of Ecclesiastes was written at least two generations
- after Soloman's death, although the author claims to be Soloman.
- III - Ever take a look at the 2nd bozook of 2nd Kings (specifically
- verses 23-25)? It's a wonderful story about god sending 2 female bears
- to tear 42 small children (youths in the NRS trans.) to shreads for
- making fun of Elisha's baldness; let's not forget that "Jesus loves
- the little children."
- III' - Along the same lines, let's not forget the 19th chapter
- of Genesis, in which Lot offers his two virgin daughters to a mob
- and is then sighted as the only rightous man in the cities; or the
- passage at the chapter's conclusion in which Lot himself then impregnates
- them himself.
- IV - Let's also not forget some of the very last words of Moses,
- as he surveyed Canaan across the Jordan: "A perverse and crooked
- generation shall be burnt with hunget and devoured with burning heat
- . . . the sword without and terror within shall destptroy the young
- man and the virgin, the suckling and the man with grey hair . . . I
- will make mine arrows drunk with blood and my sword shall devour flesh . . .
- <<Can it be doubted that this man's ideas and personality have certainly
- left their mark upon history (even as I type, I think of Even Greater
- Serbia, the slaughter by Cortes (cross and sword in hand) of the entire
- Aztec nation, Puritan "religious freedom" (hence we now have Rhode
- Island, Connecticut, and witchburning stories), the Spanish Inquisition,
- etc. . . but I am straying from the immediate issue>>.
- V - There are also great stories in Judges, like the one about
- sinated Eglon, a Moabite tyrant so fat that Ehud couldn't pull his
- sword back out; or Jephthah, who swore if god gave him victory, he'd
- sacrifice the first thing he saw when he got home - which turned out
- to be his daughter.
-
- At any rate, there are obviously many things in the Hebrew mythology
- known as the old testament which are entirely contradictory with the
- doctrine and theology espoused in the new testament (one of which is
- the fundamental shift in emphasis from material/physical/community
- oriented rites to the personal/spiritual/"my kingdom is not of this
- earth." My contention is the following: if one chooses to place faith
- in one thing or another, that is his decision; but that person hits
- murky waters when attempting to empirically legitimate such; if I were
- to buy the new testament, I would be revolted by the old, and vice versa.
- Summarily, faith is beyond the bounds of rationality.
-
- John Wheeler
- Milwaukee, WI
-