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- Subject: Re: My daughter needs to be more assertive (II)
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- From: emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp)
- Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:24:09 GMT
- References: <1993Jan20.201519.640@news.wesleyan.edu>
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- In article <1993Jan20.201519.640@news.wesleyan.edu> writes:
- >I am sorry I have not been able to respond to each of your comments separately.
- >I'll try to sort of select common themes.
- >
- >A number of posts & e-mail letters have suggested something that I think IS
- >pretty close to the heart of things here: That my career wishes/goals *for my
- >daughter* and *her* goals/wishes *for herself* are very different. I AM in
- >some ways imposing my views on her, and she IS rebelling against this. But
- >(sorry, maybe I'm just really thick here...) I think I'm *RIGHT* and she's
- >*WRONG*. And I think its due to her inexperience or whatever, and I think I
-
- No matter what opinion you reach about anything concerning your daughter, you
- must communicate it to her from her point of view. ^She^ makes the decision.
- How many things did you learn from your parents? Were any of them *not* learned
- the "hard way?"
-
- >have an obligation to provide guidance (if not coercion). Maybe that's not the
- >popular view of what parenting is all about, but it's where I'm at (do I need
- >...
- >
- >A few more facts:
- >
- >Rachel's goal in life is total self-abnegation. She wants to be a housewife,
- >...
-
- [good background omitted]
-
- >...
- >I, Personally, think it would be IRRESPONSIBLE & NEGLIGENT of me (in this day &
- >age) to go along with her desires for total self-abnegation. I think she has
- >skills and talents and a whole life in front of her, & I'd REALLY HATE to see
-
- Yes and no. She has the talent, but not access to it. This can only come from
- inside of her. You are on the outside of her, and don't have control. Some
- ways work and some ways don't.
-
- >her wind up 22 years old, no skills, no job, no money, no education, & a kid of
- >her own to support, etc., etc., etc -- like I did. My life was too hard. And
- >my kid hates me. I DON'T want to just sit by & watch her dig herself into
- >exactly the same hole. I've tried the "God didn't give you Talents in order
- >for you to waste them, He meant for you to use them" approach, but she won't
-
- First of all, this sort of an argument is hokey. It amounts to this: "You should
- do X because Y thinks you should." If you could expand this statement; change it
- to ^her^ perspective, then you might have something.
-
- What can you do, you might ask? An excellent first step would be to build trust
- in your relationship with her; to do this you will have to listen a lot and say
- litte, be open-minded about anything, and be flexible in argument.
-
- >talk to me about God or religion (I'm Jewish & she has converted to
- >Christianity & believes that Jews are destined to go to Hell). <Another
- >decision, BTW, of *hers* which I let her make w/out my interfering...>
- >...
-