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- From: garygm@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gary Brainin)
- Subject: Re: My daughter needs to be more assertive (II)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan21.062238.9700@leland.Stanford.EDU>
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- Organization: Stanford Law School, Stanford University
- References: <1993Jan18.090651.628@news.wesleyan.edu> <1993Jan20.201519.640@news.wesleyan.edu>
- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 06:22:38 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan20.201519.640@news.wesleyan.edu> RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg) writes:
- >
- >A number of posts & e-mail letters have suggested something that I think IS
- >pretty close to the heart of things here: That my career wishes/goals *for my
- >daughter* and *her* goals/wishes *for herself* are very different. I AM in
- >some ways imposing my views on her, and she IS rebelling against this. But
- >(sorry, maybe I'm just really thick here...) I think I'm *RIGHT* and she's
- >*WRONG*. And I think its due to her inexperience or whatever, and I think I
- >have an obligation to provide guidance (if not coercion). Maybe that's not the
- >popular view of what parenting is all about, but it's where I'm at (do I need
- >counseling to become rehabilitated from this un-PC view?). <sorry for the
- >sarcasm; I never thought I'd catch myself saying something like that>
-
-
- <grab Ruth by shoulders, SHAKE vigorously until attention is fixed>
-
- You're not listening. People aren't saying that you're being a
- neanderthal because you're trying to give your daughter the benefit of
- your experience. What they are saying is:
-
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- Your attempts to _force_ your views on her in this way
- ==> WILL FAIL. <==
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-
- They already have. In fact, the way you deal with your daughter is
- PART OF THE BEHAVIOUR YOU'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT. And until YOU change,
- the behaviour simply won't. Period.
-
- Think ahead. You could apply to Great School X for your daughter;
- will you force her to go? What then? Take classes for her? Or let
- Miss Passive-Aggressive fail out?
-
- Some time you've simply got to let her do things for herself, by
- herself. Not because it's the right thing to do, but because it's the
- _only_ thing to do. Your only choice is how it happens, not whether
- it happens.
-
- It's not about who's right, it's about who's responsible. And it's
- time for your daughter to take some responsibility. And she seems to
- know it. That doesn't mean that there's no role for your greater
- experience, it just means that it's time for you to shift (gradually)
- from being her protector to being her advisor.
-
- The bottom line is that she won't get the benefit of your
- experience until you get _her_ to see that it _is_ beneficial. And
- that clearly won't happen until you change your methods. Until then,
- trying to jam your views down her throat is like trying to teach a pig
- to sing. (It wastes your time and annoys the pig.)
-
- -Gary
-
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