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- From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
- Subject: Re: gears
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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 00:09:29 GMT
- Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access. The Mouth of the South.
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- Dennis writes:
- >JCA (me) wrote:
- >> My best friend runs 5.30s in his [street legal] pro-stock Plymouth...
- >> but it is a strictly 1/8th mile car... man I thought _we_ were radical!
- >
- >Mopar are more torque engines than small block Chevey engines. Some of the
- >modern small block race engines are turning 8,000 plus rpm's. Most mopars
- >loose there bottom end a little over 6,000 rpm's, unless radically built up.
-
- Although I am a firm Chevy man for drag racing, I hesitate to categorize
- any particular manufacurer's engines as weak or strong...
- The mopar engines I have known (I haven't owned any personally)
- have been stronger than Hell! A friend has run a 340 in his Barracuda drag
- car for several years that he _launches_ at 9,000 RPM and shifts at
- 11,800 RPM!!!! He also has a B1 Wedge motor that he runs to 10,000 RPM.
- Of course my best friend used to shift his LS-6 crate 454 at 7500 RPM
- without any problems. Another friend shifts his 327 Chevy II wagon
- (street car) at 8,500 RPM.
-
- >The big thing is why waist your dollars putting in a cam that gives you
- >the ability to crank 6,500 or 7,000 rpm's if you never will crank more
- >than 4,500 rpms on an engine.
-
- I agree with you here... on the "street" the most durable power solution
- is a high-displacement engine that is very mild, making it's power below
- 6,500 RPM.
-
- >My friend now is using 5.5 gears on his Chevelle with a 454 that is heaviely
- >reworked. He is not having any problems turning 130+ miles per hour and
- >keeping his ET's under 10 sec. However he does not use this machine daily
- >on the street.
-
- I guess where my basic disagreement comes in is that lower gears is not always
- the correct solution to a performance problem. Many years ago my '68 396
- Chevelle was set up with 3.30 gears with a basic "torque" engine configuration.
- (made all of it's power below 6,000 RPM)
- Because my street tires were so short (245 60 R 14s - had ~24.5" diameter)
- The car actually got slower in the quarter when I switched to 4.11 gears.
- Then I changed the engine configuration to a power setup with larger cam,
- tunnel ram, two 660 Holleys, etc. The engine (I don't own it anymore :-(
- now easily turns 7,500 RPM. For a "real" street car, who wants to drive
- the speed limit at 4,000 RPM? I guess one of the things that should be
- in the equation here is the tire diameter... it has an _incredible_
- effect... Let's see, the equation goes something like:
-
- (MPH * Final Gear Ratio) / (.002974993 * tire diameter) = Engine RPM
-
- With this equation, assuming your friend has 29" slicks (typical)
- he would be turning 8287.5 RPM at 130 mph. (no this does not take
- into account the slicks "growing" or losses in the torque converter, etc)
- That number is not unreasonable for a BBC...
-
- Interesting discussion, eh?
- JC. jca@fibercom.com
-
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- Posted by: emory!fibercom.com!jca (J.C. "J. Hoss" Akers)
-