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- From: Cannam@sc.ZIB-Berlin.de (Chris Cannam)
- Newsgroups: alt.flame
- Subject: Re: Girls & alt.flame
- Date: 26 Jan 93 11:56:08
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- In-reply-to: maufd@csv.warwick.ac.uk's message of 26 Jan 1993 01:39:50 -0000
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- In article <1k24p6INNoer@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk>
- maufd@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J S Graley) writes:
-
- I am doing a pure
- maths degree. Not only have I learned about logic, like you have, but I
- _actually_ _use_ _it_. Understand? When it comes to the ability to manipulate
- abstract (but potentially real) concepts in a consistent way, you
- philosophers just don't have it. My dad did philosophy as a degree, and
- he advised me to take maths.
-
- My dad did languages, and _he_ advised me to take maths. Why?
- Because I was better at it than at languages. So fucking what?
-
- Why? Because Philosophy is just a big boring
- history lesson. You wanna be a philosopher when you grow up? Firstly, DROP
- PHILOSOPHY. Learn about the world, about life, about how to think, and you
- may stand a chance. But so few people become sucessful philosophers, a
- degree in it is pretty much guaranteed to be a waste of time.
-
- The connection between a pure maths degree and `the world and life' is
- also extremely tenuous. I don't think a philosophy degree has that
- much connection either, but I don't think you're qualified to sound
- off like this.
-
- You wanna be a mathematician when you grow up? So few people become
- successful mathematicians... What do _you_ think a `successful
- philosopher' is? A philosopher with a 9-5 job and steady earnings?
-
- And what has logic got to do with alt.flame? What has logic got to do
- with anything?
-
- Sorry to shatter your dreams, Kathy.
-
- I doubt if you have.
-
- |Perhaps you would like me to prove to you that you have no free will.
- |I can do that too. Or that you cannot move. It all can be logically
- |proven.
-
- Maybe, but such a proof is pretty well meaningless. (Yes, I know this
- is Kathy I'm replying to here.) The ability to prove something
- logically is not likely to get you very far anywhere. Most of the
- things people hold as fundamental truths are logically wrong. That
- doesn't mean they aren't true.
-
-
- --
- on sighting mathematicians it should unhook the algebra from their
- minds and replace it with poetry; on sighting poets it should
- unhook poetry from their minds and replace it with algebra
-
-