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- From: galt%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Greg Alt)
- Newsgroups: alt.feminism
- Subject: Re: Feminism vs. the Sexual Revolution (was: Are special programs sexist/racist? (long)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.193844.4784@hellgate.utah.edu>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 02:38:43 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan26.193103.9317@netcom.com>, payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan21.164850.29053@hellgate.utah.edu> galt%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Greg Alt) writes:
- >>It is UNWANTED sexual advances that are considered harrassment.
- >
- >How does one find out that they are unwanted but by asking?
-
- If they say no, then you know. If you ask and they say they don't
- appreciate it, then you know. If you make advances after that, you
- are knowingly making unwanted advances. I think most rules/laws
- use this logic except in obvious cases (e.g. "Suck my dick or you're
- fired!").
-
- >> I know it
- >>is hard for many men to understand why unwanted sexual advances might be
- >>bad, but imagine if your male boss patted your butt and greeted you with
- >>"aren't you handsome today" and kept saying that you looked like you had
- >>a delicious penis. How would that make you feel?
- >
- >You are equating gay advances with a straight man with a heterosexual
- >man trying to have sex with a heterosexual woman. This is not a valid
- >comparison.
-
- Many women do not like any sexual advances at work. Some men like any
- sexual advances by women (or at least claim they do). For these people
- to understand what it is like to be the recipient of an unwanted advance,
- it is easiest to choose one that would like be unwanted by them.
-
- If you don't like that comparison, think of the one woman you would
- least like to grab your butt and imagine that.
-
- Besides, what if the woman is a lesbian? Since most homosexuals are in
- the closet (especially at work), you probably wouldn't even know if you
- asked her.
-