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- From: pi101@cus.cam.ac.uk (P.M. Inman)
- Subject: Re: Feminist=Equality? Errrr.... Nope.
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- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:45:33 GMT
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- In article <1jk3vrINNob7@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk>, maufd@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J S Graley) writes:
- |> In article <1993Jan19.211957.23038@llyene.jpl.nasa.gov> julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.gov (Julie Kangas) writes:
- |> |In article <1jhp09INNnv9@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk> maufd@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J S Graley) writes:
- |> |>
- |> |>You should be criticising the women who make false claims of rape, not
- |> |>the jucicial system which is given the probem of having to decide when a
- |> |>rape accusation is genuine by these women.
- |> |
- |> |I criticize them just like I criticize people who claim their
- |> |wallet was stolen when it wasn't. But it *is* up to the
- |> |judical system to determine who is or isn't guilty. And the
- |> |judical system *is* partly responsible if it doesn't prosecute
- |> |those who file false claims for personal gain.
- |> |
- |> |>You have (at least) two options when deciding your personal view on this
- |> |>matter, if you wish to provide protection against being raped yourself.
- |> |
- |> |These aren't really ways of protecting yourself against rape. They are
- |> |instead ways how *some* NOT all people may view rape cases.
- |> |
- |> |>
- |> |>(1) Claim that cries of rape should always be believed, true or false.
- |> |>
- |> |>(2) Try to prevent false cries of rape, making true ones more believable.
- |> |
- |> |How about
- |> |(3) Treat all cases individually. Follow 'innocent until proven
- |> |guilty'. Don't assume all rape accusations are all false or
- |> |all true. Prosecute *anyone* making false claims of any sort
- |> |for personal gain.
- |>
- |> I have taken your (3) as a premise. Thus its introduction into the list
- |> is pointless.
- |>
- |> We can never 'Prove' a rape has occured. We can simply provide good evidence
- |> that it has.
- |>
- |> DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT agree that fewer false accusations of rape will make
- |> the process of demonstrating a true one easier?
- |>
- |> This is a really important question, because the attitude you have shown in
- |> your posting does not seem to support this.
- |>
- |> |Julie
- |> |DISCLAIMER: All opinions here belong to my cat and no one else
- |>
- |> ~THE GREAT NAME
- |> --
- |> Don't worry,
- |> Its like in the comic books...
- |> ITS NOT REAL!
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- Phew! I'm thinking of setting up as an employment consultant, advising clients
- on the suitability of job applicants, on the basis of their performance on a
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