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- From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw)
- Subject: Re: Men doing Male Bashing
- Message-ID: <bob1.727734830@cos>
- Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
- References: <1993Jan18.072911.15112@leland.Stanford.EDU> <C12qAv.26v@ccu.umanitoba.ca> <1993Jan20.045753.27442@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1993Jan20.172933.12003@netcom.com>
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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:33:50 GMT
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- In <1993Jan20.172933.12003@netcom.com> barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:
-
- >In article <1993Jan20.045753.27442@leland.Stanford.EDU> farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU (ljf) writes:
- >>In article <C12qAv.26v@ccu.umanitoba.ca> kaarts@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kenneth John Aarts) writes:
- >>>White people don't suffer from racism, hence they obvoiusly benefit from
- >>>it? I think that the definition everyone else is using is whether white
- >>>people are better off than they would be in the absence of racism.
- >>
- >>There are different levels. If I get a better job or apartment than I
- >>deserve simply because I'm white, that benefits me. Does it benefit
- >>society? No. So, if you're saying that what benefits society
- >>benefits whites, then racism affects whites negatively. But if you
- >>say that whites get undeserved jobs, housing, promotions, etc. simply
- >>because they're white, that benefits whites (at the expense of
- >>non-whites and the equality of society).
-
- > It still makes no sense. What the hell is "deserve"? How can I
- >get a better house or job than I "deserve", and what has it to do with
- >racism? Who decides what I deserve?
-
- > Having others held back is not a benefit to me. That's what you
- >seem to be missing.
-
- I agree with you on this. For the sake of argument, if this country
- was solidly WASP, I would most likely still be living where I live,
- working where I work, etc. Racism has conferred no special benifit
- to me.
-
- But, as Ken states, holding other people back has had a negative
- effect upon us all. If a nation's greatest natural resource is its
- people (something I firmly believe), then not using, or in the
- case of human resource, not permitting that resource to reach its
- fullest potential is a disservice to the nation and the people
- involved.
-
- > Kayembee
-
- Bob.
-
-