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- From: karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
- Subject: Re: Feminist=Equality? Errrr.... Nope.
- Message-ID: <C1822K.B1G@ddsw1.mcs.com>
- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:54:20 GMT
- References: <1jan8aINNetd@gap.caltech.edu> <C131zH.52q@ddsw1.mcs.com> <1993Jan19.181634.19947@llyene.jpl.nasa.gov>
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- In article <1993Jan19.181634.19947@llyene.jpl.nasa.gov> julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.gov (Julie Kangas) writes:
- >In article <C131zH.52q@ddsw1.mcs.com> karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger) writes:
- >>
- >>And I've done some stupid things while drunk.
- >>
- >>However, I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR MY ACTIONS WHILE DRUNK.
- >>
- >>In fact, society holds me responsible for my actions while drunk, including
- >>what I consent to. Why is it different for women in bed?
- >
- >Suppose you were passed out drunk and someone stole your wallet.
- >Wouldn't you like to prosecute the person who stole it? I think
- >society, while acknowledgeing that being that drunk is a
- >stupid thing to do, would find the thief guilty of robbery.
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- If I'm passed out I cannot give consent to sex or giving away my wallet.
- Straw man argument deleted.
-
- >Suppose also that someone else freely gave away their wallet
- >while drunk and later claimed it was stolen. Does that invalidate
- >your experience? Does someone else's fradulent claims negate
- >your truthful claim?
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- The person claiming it was stolen lied, and has made a fradulent claim.
-
- >People, male or female, are going to find loopholes in laws
- >and take advantage of them. However, the fact that some women
- >say they were raped when they weren't does not mean that *no*
- >woman is ever raped in similar circumstances.
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- Didn't say it does. However, I do say that if you get willfully drunk, but
- are <conscious>, and give consent then you have. Period.
-
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- Karl Denninger (karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM, <well-connected>!ddsw1!karl)
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